UK car industry decimated by EU Membership

After reading the rubbish posted on here by Remainiacs lets us have some facts concerning the UK car industry and EU membership.

We import far more cars from the EU than we export. This, for the benefit of remainiacs and Labour voters, is what is known as a deficit. I.e. buying more than sell or importing more than you export.

In reality, what this means is the EU is seriously damaging our own car industry.

Last year the UK had a trade deficit with the EU of some £61bn. That is quite a lot of money! £29bn of this shameful figure is a direct consequence of importing cars from Germany and France.

So we lose access to the single market and go to WTO terms. Big deal!

If the EU want to impose tariffs on UK built cars sold in the EU then the UK will reciprocate. Since we import more than export it could be quite a money earner. Based on current figures a 10% duty on EU made cars could generate nearly £3bn for the Treasury a year.

If the EU wants to play hardball - we ban the import of German and French cars in the short to medium term and provide incentives to encourage UK consumers to buy UK built cars.

Over a million jobs in Germany are reliant on the sale of cars to the UK. Do you really think German business and the German Government is going to risk all those jobs for the European Union?

People may not like doing without their VW's, Audi, BMW, Mercedes or Citroen but there is still plenty of choice.

The growth in demand for Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Jaguar, Ford, Vauxhall, Land Rover, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Lotus, Aston Martin, etc will more then alleviate the treat of job losses that arises as a result of not exporting cars to the EU.

We could even bring back historic Marques with modern recreations of Triumph, Rover, MG, Austin Healey, Alvis, Talbot – who manufactured some of the best cars ever produced – before the Labour and their trade union friends brought the industry to its knees in the 60’s and 70’s.

So Nissan workers, ignore those who want to sell your nation to a foreign power. They probably have EU funded Jobs and are only looking after their own interests.
What car industry? It’s all foreign owned anyway so the profits all go abroad , unless you fancy buying a Morgan or McLaren.
 


The growth in demand for Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Jaguar, Ford, Vauxhall, Land Rover, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Lotus, Aston Martin, etc will more then alleviate the treat of job losses that arises as a result of not exporting cars to the EU.
I'm going to encourage all my family to go out and buy a new Aston Martin to support British industry. Don't know why i didn't think of it before tbf
 
So the UK is going to be self sufficient and we are all going to drive UK built cars?

Only one problem with that, the vast majority of the industry is foreign owned so after brexit they may decide to leave the country anyway - even the "British brands" like land rover and mini.


TVR :cool:


Wait....nevermind.
 
It could be said that by stopping German cars coming into the UK, Dear Deutschland car industry would be well fecked over... Sort out the job loss'es there Mrs Merkel
It could be said, but it would still be bollocks.

Germany exports about 75% of its production. Although we're the biggest single export destination for German cars, we're 800,000 out of 2.7m in the EU or around 30%, meaning the rest of the EU is 70%.

We export around 77% of our production, with the EU accounting for 56% of them. i.e. we're the ones that'll be "well fecked"
 
Any foreign owned manufacturing firm (which is nearly every major company in Britain) will pack their bags and go to the continent if we leave the single market and customs union. That is the only reason many companies are sited in Britain. The disruption to supply chains thanks to the chaos that will ensue at airports and ports when every vehicle and person needs to be checked if we end up on WTO terms which the Brexiteers love will see to that.
Bombardier in Northern Ireland producing new aircraft, Airbus in Bristol and South Wales the last vestige of our aviation industry, Rolls Royce in Derby with Trent engines, Nissan up here, chemical and pharmaceutical firms to name a few. All tens of thousands skilled jobs that help the country pay its way and improve the trade deficit we stand to lose the way things are going. Is that an economic price worth paying for 'taking back control'?
Of course not. Brexit is a complete disaster as most sensible people know. But we are stuck with it.
 
810,000 of the 2.7m cars sold in the UK last year originate in Germany alone. Nissan in Sunderland made 507k over all - 350k went overseas..
And?

People who are driving Audi, merc, bmw or other imported car are hardly likely to switch to aNissan juke post brexit are they (or any other car built st the sunderland plant).
Also as Nissan is Japanese what is the incentive for them to stay here with tariffs on the majority of their production? A tarrif they wouldnt have if they moved to an eu country?

Upping sticks.

Building new factory.
Closing down old one.
Training new staff.
Laying off old staff.
When I worked at Nissan they used to bid on the productuon of cars for x amount of years in competition with other Nissan factories.

If that's still the case it wouldn't cost them to much to move each car to different factories already set up and that aren't working to full capacity. At the same time slow down production at the Nissan plant. Go to 1 line, reduce shift pattern, number of stations etc.

Hope it never happens but it wouldn't be to hard or that costly for them to do I don't think.
 
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And?

People who are driving Audi, merc, bmw or other imported car are hardly likely to switch to aNissan juke post brexit are they (or any other car built st the sunderland plant).
Also as Nissan is Japanese what is the incentive for them to stay here with tariffs on the majority of their production? A tarrif they wouldnt have if they moved to an eu country?


When I worked at Nissan they used to bid on the productuon of cars for x amount of years in competition with other Nissan factories.

If that's still the case it wouldn't cost them to much to move each car to different factories already set up and that aren't working to full capacity. At the same time slow down production at the Nissan plant. Go to 1 line, reduce shift pattern, number of stations etc.

Hope it never happens but it wouldn't be to hard or that costly for them to do I don't think.
Infiniti?
 
I'm going to encourage all my family to go out and buy a new Aston Martin to support British industry. Don't know why i didn't think of it before tbf

That would be partly Italian owned Aston Martin which IIRC has signed a deal to use Mercedes engines and a bunch of other bits in future.
 
What proportion of UK Car sales are through Leases now? It seems a lot of people lease cars rather than buy - I suspect a few extra quid a month on leases won't put people off owning the latest Audi or BMW?
 
It could be said, but it would still be bollocks.

Germany exports about 75% of its production. Although we're the biggest single export destination for German cars, we're 800,000 out of 2.7m in the EU or around 30%, meaning the rest of the EU is 70%.

We export around 77% of our production, with the EU accounting for 56% of them. i.e. we're the ones that'll be "well fecked"
Losing 30% out of anyones back pocket is a fecking huge big hole.
 
Losing 30% out of anyones back pocket is a fecking huge big hole.
Which the German car companies are going to reluctantly accept - or maybe they won't have to as luxury car buyers in the UK will pay the extra the tariffs add to BMWs, Audis and Mercs
 
Which the German car companies are going to reluctantly accept - or maybe they won't have to as luxury car buyers in the UK will pay the extra the tariffs add to BMWs, Audis and Mercs
There will be a whole new opportunity for cars being imported from the States that are of comparable quality..
 

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