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1st ODI (MCG)

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smoker said:
Malan was seen as a slogger before this year's Ashes. You cant surmise from his ODI knocks that he'd play the same in test cricket.

Mental toughness is all important in international cricket and Roy seems to have it.

Drop Vince, Malan at 3 and Roy or Hales at five. Surely worth a go...
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We don't need to when stokes is back mind although root won't move up to 3 like I think he should
 

smoker said:
Having never been tried in test cricket, how can you say that with any confidence?

Butler had a superb start in test cricket before NZ found a weak point and we quickly gave up on him.
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I just new someone would put this forward :lol: If Jason Roy was chairman of selectors he wouldn't even pick himself for the test team. Surrey wont pick him up the order in red ball cricket and having good mental strength is all well and good but no good if 90% of the balls you face are where you are weak technically.

Some players are good enough to play in all formats but only a child would use ODI performance as a strong indicator for how someone would play in test cricket.
 
rentaghost said:
I just new someone would put this forward :lol: If Jason Roy was chairman of selectors he wouldn't even pick himself for the test team. Surrey wont pick him up the order in red ball cricket and having good mental strength is all well and good but no good if 90% of the balls you face are where you are weak technically.

Some players are good enough to play in all formats but only a child would use ODI performance as a strong indicator for how someone would play in test cricket.
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But but but David Warner :lol:
 
rentaghost said:
I just new someone would put this forward :lol: If Jason Roy was chairman of selectors he wouldn't even pick himself for the test team. Surrey wont pick him up the order in red ball cricket and having good mental strength is all well and good but no good if 90% of the balls you face are where you are weak technically.

Some players are good enough to play in all formats but only a child would use ODI performance as a strong indicator for how someone would play in test cricket.
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Hey mate you have been contributing long enough on here to know that was nailed on.
 
After this Ashes series I'd put a team out with Geoffrey's nana opening with her stick of rhubarb, never mind proven ODI batsmen.
 
rentaghost said:
I just new someone would put this forward :lol: If Jason Roy was chairman of selectors he wouldn't even pick himself for the test team. Surrey wont pick him up the order in red ball cricket and having good mental strength is all well and good but no good if 90% of the balls you face are where you are weak technically.

Some players are good enough to play in all formats but only a child would use ODI performance as a strong indicator for how someone would play in test cricket.
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Starc and Cummins would have been hoying a lot more short stuff at him if it was a test.

Being good in one form of the game doesn't guarantee success in another, as Australia's 6 test match players who played today will testify. Only one of those had a half-decent knock/game.
 
Paddy O'Dors said:
Starc and Cummins would have been hoying a lot more short stuff at him if it was a test.

Being good in one form of the game doesn't guarantee success in another, as Australia's 6 test match players who played today will testify. Only one of those had a half-decent knock/game.
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Of course they would. He would get very little else. Hales would get nothing other than 4th stump line early on until he nicked off driving and if he somehow got through that he would get nothing but fast, short stuff at his head where hes also pretty weak. Its a completely different sport.
 
hank evans said:
Was just coming on here to ask why he'd never been considered for a test match squad. Maybe a solution 3. Aggressive and doesn't seem shit scared of the short stuff. Although don' get a great deal at odi level. He could be another Vince but he has shown something consistently at a higher level. Vince has not
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Because he bats 5 and 6 for Surrey
 
Excellent news to wake up to.

Hoping to catch some highlights somewhere.
 
Not convinced Roy is the answer at test level but could he do any worse than Vince? Would he have scored more runs than Stoneman? Fact is the cupboard is pretty bare and one thing we do know about Roy is that he’s mentally tough which is a big thing at the top level.
 
chunkylover53 said:
Obviously a good innings from Roy, but he knocked a fair few up in the air

He is never a test player
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Averages nearly 40 in first class cricket. Don’t think he’s ever going to be a massively successful test player mind but given how thin on ground options are he wouldn’t be the worse shout.
 
Mrjardine said:
Not convinced Roy is the answer at test level but could he do any worse than Vince? Would he have scored more runs than Stoneman? Fact is the cupboard is pretty bare and one thing we do know about Roy is that he’s mentally tough which is a big thing at the top level.
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I don't think the selectors will be and I doubt even Roy himself harbors great ambitions to be a test match cricketer. He knows what he is good at and I imagine he will focus on becoming the top of the tree in his area of expertise. I agree with you in that he doesn't have the game for test match cricket so in my view the selectors should be looking at young players who may well have in time. I haven't seen enough of Livingstone but I prefer the direction of identifying young players that they feel have the technique and temperament to be a success at test match cricket.
 
Silly Point said:
On beating Alex Hales' record ODI score for England: "He (Hales) wasn't too happy by the sounds of things. The first thing the boys said was about him being pretty disappointed.

Selfish as well as a f***ing coward then...
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I am over the moon Hales is upset that Roy has broken his record.

It means Hales will be doing his best to get his record back.

Looking forward to Roy, Hales, Bairstow or Root becoming the 1st Englishman to score 200 in a 1 day international.
 
As if Roy would be looking to hit risky sixes and fours in test cricket :)

He needs to have a good season, like Hales did last year to be considered. However, we are in no shape batting wise to discount players who can step up to the plate when the pressure is on.

Hales should have been given a go in England towards the end of last season as he was in the form of his life in all forms of the game. It was a disgrace he wasn't even given a chance and an even bigger mistake to pick Ballance for the Ashes.

Obviously the Bristol thing put a cloud over things but the selectors had already made their decisions.
 
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