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I play PS4 when I work at home.I know a kid works for Carillion. Works from home. At least once a week he gets his mates round and they play poker, watch At The Races and have a drink. Doesn't do any work. Says it all really.
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I play PS4 when I work at home.I know a kid works for Carillion. Works from home. At least once a week he gets his mates round and they play poker, watch At The Races and have a drink. Doesn't do any work. Says it all really.
O'Rourke will buy them for a pound on the proviso he gets the government work on a cost plus basis and can incorporate precast on any Project he chooses.
a certain lady in the 80s decided local authorities didn't need to employ local people to do stuff, big business could do it cheaper and better - lose , lose
Think about it in football terms. A player earned £30,000 a week but spent £31,000. £52,000 a year in debt.Can you explain then in 2013 BB had a turnover double that of carillion, yet BB who were ranked 1 for turn over made 4 million. Carillion, who were ranked 2nd on turnover, made 110 million. The year before, almost identical figures.
Turnover means back shit.
I do very nicely in what I do with a modest turnover.Profit and in the case of large construction companies, share price is key. Carillion were streets ahead making them the largest.
For the record in not a carillion fan but they were undoubtedly the largest.They got too big for their boots and paid the penalty.Much like Owen Pugh, but in a much grander scale. There's a message somewere in all that, companies should stick to what they do best.
As a part one qualified architect I worked with them on a few builds. They are crooks.My memory/understanding/experience was that there was a seismic shift in the Construction industry when Harold Wilson brought in Selective Employment Tax.For those not old enough those not working in export led industries were taxed a premium.
Overnight General Contractors shifted out their directly employed trades who all became subbies and /or when onto the lump. Same with the Direct Labour Organisations which were local councils works departments.
The industries quality standards - training standards particularly-why have apprentices for a 5year apprenticeship in those circs plummeted.
Thatcher of course was another but the Tories hated LA's who generally still had kept their own Architects department, QS's, M&E depts Clerk of Works etc. etc. Those were generally hived off to private consultants or just closed down. The emphasis thereby shifting from a stakeholder system to a profit based system. That's were the likes of Carillion has their genesis.
In my career I worked for range of employers- directly employed by Clients, then Uni's and Local County Councils and finally Consultants ending up with Carillion.
I couldn't believe the quality that was acceptable tbf towards the end of my career nor the horrendous service Clients received nor the lack of awareness of quality especially as the industry moved to having Graduates as managers who bright as they might be had little awareness of anything but their production targets..
I could go on but |I'd probably best not.
Council???I play PS4 when I work at home.
As a part one qualified architect I worked with them on a few builds. They are crooks.
Charging Local authorities 40 quid for a 4 quid bin, clocks for walls costing a fiver charged at 60 quid.
Let's be honest anyone in the last 5 year to deal with these fuckers wouldJust under a million quid a year (for 30 years) my school pays Carillion for a shoddy building that is dropping to bits after 8 years.
Costing the school that much in repayments another 14 staff are going to be made redundant this year.
They’ve fleeced the tax payer for years and it’s going to continue. It’s f***ing disgusting
If it's dropping to bits they winter lying full whack they'll play the unavailability card.Just under a million quid a year (for 30 years) my school pays Carillion for a shoddy building that is dropping to bits after 8 years.
Costing the school that much in repayments another 14 staff are going to be made redundant this year.
They’ve fleeced the tax payer for years and it’s going to continue. It’s f***ing disgusting
As an Architect how much over your actual hourly rate does your firm charge for your services.As a part one qualified architect I worked with them on a few builds. They are crooks.
Charging Local authorities 40 quid for a 4 quid bin, clocks for walls costing a fiver charged at 60 quid.
I don’t work as an architect anymore.If it's dropping to bits they winter lying full whack they'll play the unavailability card.
As an Architect how much over your actual hourly rate does your firm charge for your services.
Can one of you explain to me how turnover means nothing?
As a part one qualified architect I worked with them on a few builds. They are crooks.
Charging Local authorities 40 quid for a 4 quid bin, clocks for walls costing a fiver charged at 60 quid.
I think the point is a company with highest turnover could make a loss in which case it is worth less than
It is entirely possible the majority of the contract was undersold (by errors in pricing/ or simply to win the revenue) resulting in a dubious behaviour of squeezing every last penny from additional chargeable works to stem the losses
ThisWork had practically stopped due to the lack of funds and the council had been approached for more money than quoted. They have fell short of what was expected for the amount paid the job hasn't moved on for ten weeks. Anyway WDSC getting involved for the cheapest quote yet again.
#Laughing stock.
And don't give me the shit about it could of happened to anyone.
In any other business you would be laughed at mate.
Do you think it was a good move getting involved with them boris? Don't dodge the question.
In other words fraud.....I think the point is a company with highest turnover could make a loss in which case it is worth less than
It is entirely possible the majority of the contract was undersold (by errors in pricing/ or simply to win the revenue) resulting in a dubious behaviour of squeezing every last penny from additional chargeable works to stem the losses
An overly aggressive business model in a sector where you cannot take risks.In other words fraud.....
This happens where I work, so it probably isn't unusual.As a part one qualified architect I worked with them on a few builds. They are crooks.
Charging Local authorities 40 quid for a 4 quid bin, clocks for walls costing a fiver charged at 60 quid.
An overly aggressive business model in a sector where you cannot take risks.
Tesla and amazon have grown rapidly by taking risks and it seems someone at carillion wanted to do the same.
Didn’t the company that built the SoL really cheaply go bust not long after?