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Agnew interviews Bayliss on the eve of the 1st NZ test
JA Trevor you've left Mark Wood out of the squad of 12. What's the reason for that
TB Well he didn't bowl much in Australia so we gave him a decent run out in the 17-a-side warm up game against NZ Women and he's picked up a bit of a heel.
JA Could that be because he bowled 53 overs unchanged from both ends
TB Well, Farby, Rooty, Broady and Cooky all felt he needed a decent spell. But he pulled up a bit lame in his last over so we've decided not to risk him
JA Ok. So what about Ball, Woakes and Overton who are all in the squad but haven't played a lot of cricket here
TB Bally looks great in the nets. He's getting good bounce and carry. Infact Farby thinks Johnny might not be able to stand up to him by the 3rd or 4th day. Rooty and Rocky faced Woaksy in the nets blindfolded and said he's started getting his zip back. Reckon he'll be on the money if we bat first. Overs is short of practice admittedly. He could only play as a batter in the last warm up game but he's a tough cookie and Mallas reckons Overs will be ok to bowl underarm if required
JA I'm a bit concerned Modern hasn't bowled since Sydney. What's that about
TB He's a bit short of confidence so we've had him on a zen buddism get to know yourself course. He's been shadow bowling for a few weeks and is getting right through the crease. Farby says he'll be getting big revs and plenty of drift.
JA The performance in Australia was a shambles. Have you considered your own position
TB Who gives a fuck about test matches mate, they're boring as fuck. I'm only interested in the white ball stuff.
JA Ok. But can you explain why you've stuck with James Vince
TB Farby says he gives good head
JA Trevor you've left Mark Wood out of the squad of 12. What's the reason for that
TB Well he didn't bowl much in Australia so we gave him a decent run out in the 17-a-side warm up game against NZ Women and he's picked up a bit of a heel.
JA Could that be because he bowled 53 overs unchanged from both ends
TB Well, Farby, Rooty, Broady and Cooky all felt he needed a decent spell. But he pulled up a bit lame in his last over so we've decided not to risk him
JA Ok. So what about Ball, Woakes and Overton who are all in the squad but haven't played a lot of cricket here
TB Bally looks great in the nets. He's getting good bounce and carry. Infact Farby thinks Johnny might not be able to stand up to him by the 3rd or 4th day. Rooty and Rocky faced Woaksy in the nets blindfolded and said he's started getting his zip back. Reckon he'll be on the money if we bat first. Overs is short of practice admittedly. He could only play as a batter in the last warm up game but he's a tough cookie and Mallas reckons Overs will be ok to bowl underarm if required
JA I'm a bit concerned Modern hasn't bowled since Sydney. What's that about
TB He's a bit short of confidence so we've had him on a zen buddism get to know yourself course. He's been shadow bowling for a few weeks and is getting right through the crease. Farby says he'll be getting big revs and plenty of drift.
JA The performance in Australia was a shambles. Have you considered your own position
TB Who gives a fuck about test matches mate, they're boring as fuck. I'm only interested in the white ball stuff.
JA Ok. But can you explain why you've stuck with James Vince
TB Farby says he gives good head
Wow. I can’t believe you bothered
Voice of fair play
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As long as Root and Bairstow bat higher up the order should be 3 and 5.
Cook
Stoneman
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Livingstone
Ali
Woakes
Overton
Broad
Anderson
Not exactly groundbreaking change but who else is there?
Cook
Stoneman
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Livingstone
Ali
Woakes
Overton
Broad
Anderson
Not exactly groundbreaking change but who else is there?
Silly Point
Striker
I'd try Foakes, as a batsman only, instead of Livingstone but that's about it.
Struts
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So on the money it hurts.
mackembhoy
Striker
I still don't get how we've never gone to Hildreth
He's not too old as Chris Rogers was excellent for Australia after being a great county cricketer.
I mean Lawrence/Clarke will be the players they will be looking too.
But we are a complete pushover, Malan with some proper experience did a job.
Anyway it's a moot point cos it won't happen.
As long as Vince never plays again I'll be happy(well unless they play ballance). A very poor mans Ian Bell.
On the subject of ballance, f***ing embarrassing he was the only back up batsman for the tour.
Stoneman will probably get another go. We can't constantly change the opener.
He's not too old as Chris Rogers was excellent for Australia after being a great county cricketer.
I mean Lawrence/Clarke will be the players they will be looking too.
But we are a complete pushover, Malan with some proper experience did a job.
Anyway it's a moot point cos it won't happen.
As long as Vince never plays again I'll be happy(well unless they play ballance). A very poor mans Ian Bell.
On the subject of ballance, f***ing embarrassing he was the only back up batsman for the tour.
Stoneman will probably get another go. We can't constantly change the opener.
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Big Bird
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Similar interview given by Root on Christmas day
From Cricinfo
Root, the England captain, is confident that Curran will not be intimidated by the atmosphere of the hostility of the opposition. And, combined with his excellent fitness record and ability to withstand a demanding workload, it was enough to see him win selection ahead of more experienced seamers such as Jake Ball and Mark Wood.
"Tom offers a lot," Root said. "He's a real competitor. He does get the ball to move around a bit - he's skilful - and he's always in the contest. He has a similar work ethic to Overton. He's always wanting to get in the contest and you know that he will give you everything.
"He's a feisty character. One thing that really stands out to me is that at no point will he hide away from a challenge if it does become very hard he'll give it absolutely everything."
While Wood is understood to have assured the team management over his fitness, Root felt his selection on what is expected to be another very good batting surface "might have been a risk."
Apparently they've been even more impressed with Curro's character after seeing how he dealt with going at four an over in his first two tests.
Moeen has responded to well the Buddhism but Liam Dawson will be brought in as cover as he's offers great fight and determination and needs to have a run out before the the white ball stuff in the summer
Jack Torrance
Striker
Calling Vince a very poor man's Ian Bell is generous. I think he's been incredibly lazy not to work on his game and not get out in the same way. I think the same of Ali this series
mackembhoy
Striker
Stoneman
Cook
Root
Lawrence/Clarke/Livingstone
Malan
Bairstow
Foakes
Woakes/Wood/TRJ
Broad
Anderson
Crane/Bess/Leach
Cook
Root
Lawrence/Clarke/Livingstone
Malan
Bairstow
Foakes
Woakes/Wood/TRJ
Broad
Anderson
Crane/Bess/Leach
Bri
Striker
Don't think Hildreth had a particularly good season last year ... in previous years he's been great but maybe not good enough, Trescothic said he wasn't ready when asked on Sky a few years ago.
In any case middle order looks reasonable at the moment with the addition of Stokes. Numbers 1,2 and 3 are where the issues are - obviously Cook is fine at the moment but in maybe 3 years time he'll drop out and we'll need a replacement and that will be 10 times as hard if we don't have a solid 2 and 3 by then.
Personally I'd be up for trying Hales at 3 if he want to play Test matches or a County opener such as Jennings, Hameed, or whoever.
Jack Torrance
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They have played for the test team before but all 3 failed. They dont play enough first class cricket for their counties these days to be reconsidered
Bri
Striker
The skills for Test cricket and T20 are very different.
T20 is about hard hitting and there's an element of luck about it. A player say plays for 30-40 balls but in that time they score perhaps 50 runs - because they chance their arm and sometimes it comes off. And it's easier because the ground is smaller and the ball is a kookaburra which doesn't swing and seam as much as the normal English ball and there are fielding restrictions, you never see 3 slips because the main job of a bowler is to be economical and taking wickets is secondary.
In Test cricket the playing time is extended so unless the bowlers take wickets the batting team would score enormous totals. So the mentality is entirely different. Batsmen's skills end up being examined much more severely in Test cricket than they do in T20.
Morgan, Hales and Buttler are great hitters - as it happens I think Hales and Buttler could do a job in Test cricket. But Hales doesn't have the game for a Test opener, too loose, but he could play 4/5 imho. Buttler could play 6/7 and wicket-keeper but I'd prefer Bairstow and Ali.
Jack Torrance
Striker
Will open for England in the future no doubt but agree atm I'm not sure. Do love a batsman who occupies the crease but he's got to work on scoring a bit quicker
Voice of fair play
Striker
Because Buttler is clearly a outstanding talent, hameed is worse than watching paint dry
Can't believe it took 'til your post on here for Jack Leach to get a mention. If we've got Woakes at 8 we can handle a weak 9, 10, 11 and put him in imo.
Cook
Stoneman
Malan
Root
Bairstow
*** New batter ***
Foakes (Wk)
Woakes
Rowland-Jones
Anderson
Leach/ Ali
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Ageing trundler
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I had Leach in my 16 for NZ. Would have had him or Rashid (bouncier pitches may have suited his leggies and of course gives a bit of depth to the batting) in the Ashes squad too. Crane was as bad a pick as Dawson/Ansari/Batty were a year or 2 ago.
Can't believe this hasn't had more love, it's cutting edge stuff, mental how Bayliss thinks......
Miserable twat.
That's a very good point, it's too late for him now, but he's been one of the most prolific batsmen in county cricket for over a decade yet he never gets anywhere near.
As for Vince, I f***ing hate him. It's not even his fault he gets picked, but I don't know if there's ever been a less deserving England cricketer than that bastard.
He's been absolutely shite since he broke his hand in India. I think he's got a short ball problem too, which isn't particularly good if you're an opener outside of the subcontinent.
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