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Father Jack Hackett said:
Seriously mate, even without the 2 deducted, Leather certainly didn't have a 10-8 round so where did the extra point come from?
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He would have scored the fight 8-4 in rounds to Leather, so 116-112 without any deductions, Glenn would have got the 10-8 for his knock down so that would be 115-112, and then 115-110 with Glenn's 2 points deducted. I was watching at the arena so will need to watch it back, but i could see Leather taking 6 of the rounds, so that would be 115-114 Leather taking into account the knockdown for Josh and the 2 deducted for Glenn. I thought Josh won most of the latter rounds but a lot of those i was talking to did have Foot taking it, so I'll watch again later today as i recorded it.
 
The Bridge Lad said:
He would have scored the fight 8-4 in rounds to Leather, so 116-112 without any deductions, Glenn would have got the 10-8 for his knock down so that would be 115-112, and then 115-110 with Glenn's 2 points deducted. I was watching at the arena so will need to watch it back, but i could see Leather taking 6 of the rounds, so that would be 115-114 Leather taking into account the knockdown for Josh and the 2 deducted for Glenn. I thought Josh won most of the latter rounds but a lot of those i was talking to did have Foot taking it, so I'll watch again later today as i recorded it.
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I seriously can't see how he's scored it 8-4. Leather only won 1 of the first 5 rounds imo. There's no way he won all of the rest.
 
The Bridge Lad said:
He would have scored the fight 8-4 in rounds to Leather, so 116-112 without any deductions, Glenn would have got the 10-8 for his knock down so that would be 115-112, and then 115-110 with Glenn's 2 points deducted. I was watching at the arena so will need to watch it back, but i could see Leather taking 6 of the rounds, so that would be 115-114 Leather taking into account the knockdown for Josh and the 2 deducted for Glenn. I thought Josh won most of the latter rounds but a lot of those i was talking to did have Foot taking it, so I'll watch again later today as i recorded it.
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Having watched it live last night then watching it again on catch up this morning I'm even more sure Foot was ripped off, the referee seemed hell bent on pulling foot even though leather was constantly hitting behind the head, holding and hitting when he was on the ropes. Frank Warren was going ape shit and you Clearly hear him shouting at the ref telling him to do something about foots head yet it was leather holding him in which brought foots head down. Whoever scored it by 5 rounds to leather should be ashamed of themselves as it gives boxing a bad name. I managed to have a little chat with Davie Binns after the show and they will be asking BBBC to review the scoring plus ask for a rematch.
 
RichD said:
Having watched it live last night then watching it again on catch up this morning I'm even more sure Foot was ripped off, the referee seemed hell bent on pulling foot even though leather was constantly hitting behind the head, holding and hitting when he was on the ropes. Frank Warren was going ape shit and you Clearly hear him shouting at the ref telling him to do something about foots head yet it was leather holding him in which brought foots head down. Whoever scored it by 5 rounds to leather should be ashamed of themselves as it gives boxing a bad name. I managed to have a little chat with Davie Binns after the show and they will be asking BBBC to review the scoring plus ask for a rematch.
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RichD said:
Having watched it live last night then watching it again on catch up this morning I'm even more sure Foot was ripped off, the referee seemed hell bent on pulling foot even though leather was constantly hitting behind the head, holding and hitting when he was on the ropes. Frank Warren was going ape shit and you Clearly hear him shouting at the ref telling him to do something about foots head yet it was leather holding him in which brought foots head down. Whoever scored it by 5 rounds to leather should be ashamed of themselves as it gives boxing a bad name. I managed to have a little chat with Davie Binns after the show and they will be asking BBBC to review the scoring plus ask for a rematch.
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The ref done my head in last night. Pulled Foot up for the slightest thing all fight.
 
Watched the Foot and Smith fights back today. I still think there is a case for Leather to have won 6 rounds, can't really give him more than that, so if he won 6 then he would win the fight 113-112, and if he won 5 then Foot would have won 113-112, so for me it was a very close fight, certainly not a robbery which Jaffa and co are claiming (IMO) and Josh has obviously had the benefit of the doubt being the 'A-side' - not ideal, but unfortunately expected on major promoters cards.

I had Williams winning by a few on the night, and was stunned when the announcer said 'Liam...Beefy...'as were a lot of randomers around me. I have also watched it back and it was closer than i thought, I scored it 6-6, but again could have gone close by one, one way or the other, but 117-111 was terrible. One thing I will say is the BT Sport commentating was terrible and massively biased towards Smith, almost Sky-esq. This surprised me a bit because they are both promoted by Warren and William is 4 years younger and you'd think would have better year ahead of him. Smith probably had the easiest vacant world title win and first couple of defences that i can recall in my time as a boxing fan and to me is pretty limited, plus from a city with a lot of (better) talent which will obviously affect his potential fan base.

Overall i thought it was a decent card. The main event was a bit of a let down and the Ward fight was always going to go that way, so a lot of the rounds became the same. The Foot-Leather fight absolutely made it, the two sets of fans (Leather brought a fair few up with trademark Tee-Tee-Teesider chant) and the early knockdown added to that atmosphere. Had that fight not been on then it might have been a bit boring and forgetful but overall a decent enough night and nice to see a few fights with no obvious outcomes.

RichD said:
I thought Tommy ward boxed really well last night, if that lad had real power he really would be a world beater...
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Yep, got a lot of skills and nice style but as many say, he can't crack an egg. They had 2 KO's between them in 34 wins between them going into this fight so the 1/2 Tommy points was always a good bet. Davis was game but Tommy comfortable despite the early cuts.

Apparently the show didn't do that many tickets, people were saying only 2,000 or so. It was hard to tell at the arena as people were dipping in and out between fights. I can't see Warren rushing to get back here and it will be basically 6 of one and half a dozen of the other in terms of promoting the Leathers in Leeds or Newcastle. Tommy has only just signed with Warren but (saying this through gritted teeth) a move to Hearn might not be the worst idea (if possible) with Hearn having Kelly and Ritson in his stable. A card with those 3 plus a cruiserweight battle between Baister and Valilly would make for a decent card up here.
 
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