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stephen cartwright
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Do you think a batch in red and white, black border, with the letters FOG, could be a seller.
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Twisted
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Don't see what it achieves personally.
I've always believe that our support is top draw. That if you try, if you give it all but are shit then we'll still be right behind you.
If you have all the talent but couldn't care less you'll get both barrells but we'll back our own as long as they try, and we'll not hold it against you for being shit.
This season is showing me that is bollocks. Vaughan, Matthews, Grayson et al are not up to the job, don't have the tools to succeed but are doing their best and are getting nowt but dogs abuse.
Personally i think it is pretty shameful.
If the 'g' in your badge idea doesn't stand for grayson then excuse this rant, i've no idea why it is in the cricket forum but i perhaps i've got the wrong end of the stick and don't know what you're talking about.
I've always believe that our support is top draw. That if you try, if you give it all but are shit then we'll still be right behind you.
If you have all the talent but couldn't care less you'll get both barrells but we'll back our own as long as they try, and we'll not hold it against you for being shit.
This season is showing me that is bollocks. Vaughan, Matthews, Grayson et al are not up to the job, don't have the tools to succeed but are doing their best and are getting nowt but dogs abuse.
Personally i think it is pretty shameful.
If the 'g' in your badge idea doesn't stand for grayson then excuse this rant, i've no idea why it is in the cricket forum but i perhaps i've got the wrong end of the stick and don't know what you're talking about.
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stephen cartwright
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I was using the ftecb badge as an example, so the fog badge if designed and ordered could do a better trade than the ftecb.
That's all. Imo
Parsnip this shite
Twisted
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well, all the other points in my post still stand.
also fog seems very fitting given today felt like being in that horror fillum. unreal out there
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stephen cartwright
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Fuck off grayson
It's on pf as well. Was wanting an idea how much the 100 ftecb badges cost to knock up?
That's why I put it on here.
Twisted
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i'm not grayson.
i think the cost was roughly £250 or so as i'm fairly sure it was £3 a badge which covered costs with a bit going to charity.
i'll not want one, as i say i stand by all my original post. think this is pretty purile, unnecessary and honestly a bit shameful towards a bloke facing a hurricane with a plastic fork.
Twisted
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I'm honestly quite lost who is to blame for it all. Even Short i struggle to blame entirely as he has pumped absolutely 100s of million in and we've got worse the more he spends. Ultimately he has to cop the blame as the man at the top but he has been systematically let down by everyone from roy keane, martin o'neill, steve bruce and moyes being probably the worst offenders of flushing the most money away - all managerial choices you'd have thought would be good ones.
di fantit, congerton, pdc [arguably] were catastrophic failures he must carry the can for but i mean f***ing hell, sometimes it seems no matter what he does it goes to shit against better judgement. i actually feel pretty sorry for him.
i think a big part of it is a really worry what kind of headcase would take on this job and that it could get even worse so i'm not even sure i want rid of him. leeds, portsmouth, blackburn, cardiff, wimbledon/mk dons etc
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stephen cartwright
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That's what fog stands for
Could I just add, he did state people who don't attend are cockroaches coming out of the woodwork to complain about the utter shambles, he is delivering.
Fans fault you see
Twisted
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that is a massive reach like
Dougal
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No change there then
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stephen cartwright
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Thanks flatterer
CollingwoodFTM
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I can’t see the point Stephen tbh.
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stephen cartwright
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A common problem sadly spreading rapidly
Twisted
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Haway explain the point then.
Sacking another manager really going to achieve owt?
Wearing some badges with fog written on them going to get the manager sacked?
What will you do with all the badges in a few months once hes been sacked (if he is as bad as you think) or has turned things round a bit?
Who would you get in, since we couldn't get our first choice last time and now we are where we are who would end up in charge do you think?
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stephen cartwright
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I was in a radgey state.
I do think his position will be untenable if two of the next three are not won.
It's his constant changing of tactics, players and formations, which make no sense.
Of course short is to blame etc etc, but I can't forgive the identical nature of the first six home games this season.
As for badges, it may make a few quid for a charity.
Who would I get in? Reid with ball, Lambert, McLeish, unknown foreign manager, there are plenty around.
You can't tell me, no one could organise this squad in a way, so we can keep a clean sheet, score first in a home game, and then go on to win a home game.
Also it's not an impossible task to get us to mid table.
Birmingham sacked redknapp, one game for cotterill, he gets them organised to beat the league leaders.
Change is needed in ownership, no question, but we can't continue in this disorganised rabble on the pitch.
Twisted
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I guess my question is less who would you put in charge and how much faith do you have wed end up with someone better?
Given we tried but failed to install mcinnes and ended up with Grayson
I agree his constant tweaking is not helping. I'm hoping when our side will get more settled now were getting somewhere near full strength
Given we tried but failed to install mcinnes and ended up with Grayson
I agree his constant tweaking is not helping. I'm hoping when our side will get more settled now were getting somewhere near full strength
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Dougal
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Whatever happened to "Keep the Faith"?
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