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Makes you wonder where you would draw the line.

1) 5 more punches

2) Stotting his head off the pavement a few times

3) Picking up the bottle himself and smashing it in the lads face

4) Killing someone

5) Nothing would be too far.

Where exactly would you draw the line on Stokes going to far?
 


Makes you wonder where you would draw the line.

1) 5 more punches

2) Stotting his head off the pavement a few times

3) Picking up the bottle himself and smashing it in the lads face

4) Killing someone

5) Nothing would be too far.

Where exactly would you draw the line on Stokes going to far?

To be honest I'd rather see idiots like that wiped out of society if they want to wave glass bottles around outside in public, so basically any of the above applies.
 
To be honest I'd rather see idiots like that wiped out of society if they want to wave glass bottles around outside in public, so basically any of the above applies.

I'm absolutely certain if a close family member or very good friend of yours got pissed and waved a glass bottle about and had hid head bounced off the pavement repeatedly and killed as punishment you'd think exactly the same way
 
I can understand your unremitting support for Stokes, and as you say if someone is waving a bottle they deserve *a clip*, I think the problem is that he appeared to lose it and went overboard, he will suffer the consequences and I can guarantee you that he'll tucked away in his ivory tower regretting every single second of it.

There's absolutely no way you know if he will go to jail for it

So why are you pretending you do?

I'm absolutely certain if a close family member or very good friend of yours got pissed and waved a glass bottle about and had hid head bounced off the pavement repeatedly and killed as punishment you'd think exactly the same way

That's not what happened

So it's an absolutely f***ing stupid post

Well done.

I'll go and smash a glass bottle over your son's head, I'm sure you'll be fine with that. Ffs

I'm not saying he's done anything wrong. I'm quite happy to wait for a proper investigation and if he's guilty welcome him back after he's been punished.

What I am not going to do is get my pitchfork out of the cupboard and join a lynching party. Nor am I going to get that worked up about it. There will be due process and I'm happy enough that it does and afterwards happy that Stokes will continue his career entertaining cricket fans (but not too much of that T20 stuff).

Very sensible and can't disagree with a word of that

Makes you wonder where you would draw the line.

1) 5 more punches

2) Stotting his head off the pavement a few times

3) Picking up the bottle himself and smashing it in the lads face

4) Killing someone

5) Nothing would be too far.

Where exactly would you draw the line on Stokes going to far?

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What the fuck? You've lost the plot here marra. Jesus.
 
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I'm absolutely certain if a close family member or very good friend of yours got pissed and waved a glass bottle about and had hid head bounced off the pavement repeatedly and killed as punishment you'd think exactly the same way
I would. Be his/her own daft fault for acting like a dickhead and been a threat to the general public.
 
Where exactly would you draw the line on Stokes going to far?

Where do you draw the line then?

One punch is too many, there's even a campaign with that exact title warning about the dangers of "accidentally" killing someone with one hit.

So where do you stop then? Stand aside and not get involved? One punch? Five? Ten?

There's a lot of people with a lot of self-righteous indignation here, a lot of people claiming they would have handled the situation a lot different. Oh yes, well I've decreed that the 9th punch was too far, I would have stopped after the 8th and I hope they throw the book at him. It's a load of old bollocks.

I hope none of you are ever in a situation where someone is trying to shove a deadly weapon in your face, but if you ever are, I guarantee you will lose your shit. And if you can manage to fight your attacker off, but then snap back into a calm and rational person making reasoned judgments in a split second, then you're a better man than I.
 
There's absolutely no way you know if he will go to jail for it

So why are you pretending you do?
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Please point me to where I said he will?
He's already suffering the consequences of his actions, dropped by a sponsor, omitted from touring party that will travel (for now) to Australia.
You really do have a poor grasp on reality don't you?
 
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Please point me to where I said he will?
He's already suffering the consequences of his actions, dropped by a sponsor, omitted from touring party that will travel (for now) to Australia.
You really do have a poor grasp on reality don't you?

I thought you did

Well lots have people have found him guilty before he's even been charged!
 
There's absolutely no way you know if he will go to jail for it

So why are you pretending you do?



That's not what happened

So it's an absolutely f***ing stupid post

Well done.

I'll go and smash a glass bottle over your son's head, I'm sure you'll be fine with that. Ffs



Very sensible and can't disagree with a word of that



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What the fuck? You've lost the plot here marra. Jesus.

Its not a trick question. You yourself has said that you don't believe he went to far? There has to be line where anyone goes to far? Where would that line have been for you?

I thought you did

Well lots have people have found him guilty before he's even been charged!

Again you are missing the point. Whether or not Stokes gets charged or not doesn't determine whether or not he has done something badly wrong. When the dust settles and Stokes comes out with his side of the story I have no doubt he will admit to doing things wrong and wishing he had done things differently. Time will tell.
 
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If your own mates say 'say Stokesy that's enough' , if your own mates try and pull you back.

That's tells you a story basically that you have gone too far.

If he did no wrong why were his own mates not encouraging him?

To be honest I'd rather see idiots like that wiped out of society if they want to wave glass bottles around outside in public, so basically any of the above applies.

Maybe I am mistaken but I only seen one bloke waving a bottle, yet Stokes going after two, does the other bloke deserve to be wiped out of society purely by association.

If the people defending him and I can see their point of view only admitted he went too far that would make sense.

To actually say he has done nothing wrong at all is ridiculous!
 
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Says who? Have you spoken to Strauss? Or the CPS?

Last I heard he was suspended until the police make their decision. That could happen next week - it could be NFA.......



So you don't think there has been a character assassination?

What about the other things I mentioned, aside from the Harvey shit?

What about the 'outrage' over Stokes smoking a tab at the weekend? Front page shit. f***ing barmy. What next, Stokes knocks out a massive turd?!

The vilification of everything Stokes does by vile papers is exactly character assassination. In comparison the 'victim' can do no wrong, he's one of the most heroic, brave, model citizens in this country :rolleyes:.

What do the rags have to do to constitute character assassination in your book?

Google definition of character assassination: the malicious and unjustified harming of a person's good reputation.

That is EXACTLY what certain shitrags have been doing to Ben Stokes.

You trying to say Stokes has got a good reputation?
 
Really? You really believe that that would justify killing someone?

Do you have any concept of proportionate response?

And Dave Angel liked the post. In short we have been arguing with two posters who are happy enough to support that if you are waving a bottle around you are fair game to be hunted down and killed. Is this really happening. If Stokes was reading this he would be far more annoyed and embarrassed at that type of stuff in support of him than people being critical of his actions.
 
If your own mates say 'say Stokesy that's enough' , if your own mates try and pull you back.

That's tells you a story basically that you have gone too far.

If he did no wrong why were his own mates not encouraging him?



Maybe I am mistaken but I only seen one bloke waving a bottle, yet Stokes going after two, does the other bloke deserve to be wiped out of society purely by association.

If the people defending him and I can see their point of view only admitted he went too far that would make sense.

To actually say he has done nothing wrong at all is ridiculous!

It's completely laughable you've found him guilty already

He's not even been charged yet ffs

As Bumble says if your son wakes up in hospital with glass in his eye I suspect your reaction would be different

Don't let that mob mentality stop you though. Keep reading the sun mate I can see it's helping to shape your views

I'm being a bit over the top there but so aye you.

You trying to say Stokes has got a good reputation?

Aye he has, you've probably never met him, you just judge him on an internet message board
 
It's completely laughable you've found him guilty already

He's not even been charged yet ffs

As Bumble says if your son wakes up in hospital with glass in his eye I suspect your reaction would be different

Don't let that mob mentality stop you though. Keep reading the sun mate I can see it's helping to shape your views

I'm being a bit over the top there but so aye you.



Aye he has, you've probably never met him, you just judge him on an internet message board

Nobody has found him guilty in the eyes of the law yet. Plenty believe he is guilty of really poor behaviour and it wouldn't surprise me if Stokes himself is one of them.
 
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