Harvey Weinstein



I am following the evidence. There's not much grey area here. I've only read three testimonies and it's clear as day from those alone irrespective of anything else that's happened on top. Not only that but he's not even denying it so much as making the same tired excuses of "things were different in my day" and "I have a problem". There's no subtleties here. Just a predatory fat man abusing women in a variety of different ways and him excusing himself weakly.

I'll admit though my calling you a victim abuser was out of line as you didn't actually do that, apologies. Emotions run high on this stuff.

No bother mate, I don't take this place seriously. :)
 
It's not a competition, but I think Trump will be remembered as a bigger kernt than all others combined.
At least Bill Clinton presided over economic stability and helped with the Peace Process in Norn Irn
Oh dear

Not at all, but at least, Bill apologised for his piss poor behaviour and abuse of office.
I say abuse of office. Monica was up for what was going on there.

I don't think they were all pandering to HW. The point that many have been saying is that even if they had said anything they wouldn't have been believed.
Sound a bit like Saville to me. Albeit not with kids, but a similar abuse of power and status
But Bill's actions are ok then?
 
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because they are self obsessed and totally career orientated in the vast majority, easy to come out when there is no collatoral damage. happy to feather their own nest in the knowledge many aftetwards will be abused. he is clearly a twat but the retrospective condemnation after they have made their millions doesnt sit right with me at all. it wasnt like he was abusing kids ffs, they were all out for number one and in their eyes did what they needed to do to achieve what they were looking for.

Exactly mate
 
It's a weird phenomenon that once the word is out people queue up to get their accusations in but won't make them before.

“I knew about Harvey a year ago. I’m ashamed that I didn’t speak out sooner”
“But why didn’t you? You’ve had no problem being outspoken in the past”
“I don’t know - I suppose it’s cos he never did it to me so it didn’t affect me”

(Jane Fonda)
 
“I knew about Harvey a year ago. I’m ashamed that I didn’t speak out sooner”
“But why didn’t you? You’ve had no problem being outspoken in the past”
“I don’t know - I suppose it’s cos he never did it to me so it didn’t affect me”

(Jane Fonda)
My question would be who else is there Jane?
 
Bill had an affair, in office, and apologised for it. It's not up to me to forgive him. He didn't wrong me.
He also didn't do the kinds of things HW is being accused of

I wouldn't be too sure about that. He was mates with Epstein and rode the 'Lolita express' to his island. On top of that his and Hilary's charity work in Haiti just to name one place have some very dark rumours involving child trafficking.


I must say that I'd never heard of that before.
 
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I wouldn't be too sure about that. He was mates with Epstein and rode the 'Lolita express' to his island. On top of that his and Hilary's charity work in Haiti just to name one place have some very dark rumours involving child trafficking.
f***ing hell man. :lol:

With that kind of joined up thinking you could accuse anyone on this forum of being a nonce:

You use the internet, the internet contains child porn, you must therefore be downloading child porn, you must enjoy child child porn, you probably groom kids.

You disgust me.
 

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