Harvey Weinstein

Posts a load of abuse (standard bullying tactic) and at the same time calls someone a bully.

A little ironic. I haven’t reported you, btw.

Just a reminder of what you posted on an earlier page in reply to me:
And that was abusive??
 


Well he just outed himself as an ex copper so its not a huge surprise that he fails to see the subtleties of a very complex situation.
Fact one - while apparently not yet accused of any crime it seems fairly obvious HW is guilty of some despicable acts over several years. I don't see anyone on here defending or excusing that.

Fact two - this kind of thing can be a lot more complex than a black-white judgement as to who is wrong and who is blameless, and participating in a discussion of those subtleties rather than shutting it down with blanket statements may actually serve to enlighten and educate the participants who may not have given a lot of thought to the implications of perpetrators, victims, apologists, smearers, tacit cover-uppers, etc. And that includes me!
Such subtitles in this instance as can I just tell a women I'm paying that they're a fat pig, get naked in a room with a different woman in my employ, chase them into the bathroom, request a massage and start massaging them without consent when they say no, or with another one suggest they kiss a girl I've invited into in the room for such a purpose, that kind of thing. Notorious grey areas.
 
Person A, should they know that Person B is doing something of course should say something. However if person A is a victim in fear of further abuse it's a very different story. Not least because the evidence shows that women (and men, but usually women) are not believed when they come out with their admissions and frequently become victims themselves. Society in general dosent believe or accept victims of sexual abuse. Men are more interested in protecting themselves hypothetically than women in actuality on this front unfortunately.

On top of all this I doubt many people would, when push comes to shove, out behaviour like this in the knowledge that it might cost them their career, future prospects and capacity to pay the bills. Let alone be in a position to ascertain whether it was serial behaviour.

And as before, the only offense is that of the abuse by the perpetrator. They are literally the only person to have caused any of this.
this, this, this
 
And that was abusive??

Nah, this could be interpreted as ‘bullying’ though

Just so you know you absolute bell end I’ve reported you. I feel sorry for your gf, if you have one, your kids, if you’re capable, your parents,if they weren’t donor sperm, and the obvious sad life you lead bullying people on an Internet forum. I hope you eat shit and are very ill. Cheers.

You’re still at it, man.

But remember though, to paraphrase someone in the thread earlier:

This is the SMB ‘misogyny central’. If you are so outraged, why are you here?
 
Well he just outed himself as an ex copper so its not a huge surprise that he fails to see the subtleties of a very complex situation.
Fact one - while apparently not yet accused of any crime it seems fairly obvious HW is guilty of some despicable acts over several years. I don't see anyone on here defending or excusing that.

Fact two - this kind of thing can be a lot more complex than a black-white judgement as to who is wrong and who is blameless, and participating in a discussion of those subtleties rather than shutting it down with blanket statements may actually serve to enlighten and educate the participants who may not have given a lot of thought to the implications of perpetrators, victims, apologists, smearers, tacit cover-uppers, etc. And that includes me!
I disagree with all this "there's subtleties" stuff about someone who was a sexual predator, a sexual assaulter, and (possibly) a rapist. Where are these "subtleties"? What's so "subtle"? What am I missing here?
 
Nah, this could be interpreted as ‘bullying’ though



You’re still at it, man.

But remember though, to paraphrase someone in the thread earlier:

This is the SMB ‘misogyny central’. If you are so outraged, why are you here?
I have no idea why you are so angry. You don’t don’t know me. What is it about me that pisses you off so much?
 
Nah, this could be interpreted as ‘bullying’ though



You’re still at it, man.

But remember though, to paraphrase someone in the thread earlier:

This is the SMB ‘misogyny central’. If you are so outraged, why are you here?
Tbh I’ve sat here with my daughter howling at this. It’s pathetic. You’re pathetic. But it’s amusing.
 
Funny how all the lasses are coming out now as it's the in thing. If they felt that bad and knew he was a pest why keep quiet?

Hollywood and A list celebrities are corrupt as fuck. How do you think the majority got to the top?

Either fucked someone over or fucked someone higher. Now his names tainted they are all like rats on a sinking ship.

I'm not sticking up for him mind, hope he gets all he deserves but it's pure hypocrisy the media.

He would have pissed somebody higher up off or not complied and they have released his secrets.

because they are self obsessed and totally career orientated in the vast majority, easy to come out when there is no collatoral damage. happy to feather their own nest in the knowledge many aftetwards will be abused. he is clearly a twat but the retrospective condemnation after they have made their millions doesnt sit right with me at all. it wasnt like he was abusing kids ffs, they were all out for number one and in their eyes did what they needed to do to achieve what they were looking for.
 
because they are self obsessed and totally career orientated in the vast majority, easy to come out when there is no collatoral damage. happy to feather their own nest in the knowledge many aftetwards will be abused. he is clearly a twat but the retrospective condemnation after they have made their millions doesnt sit right with me at all. it wasnt like he was abusing kids ffs, they were all out for number one and in their eyes did what they needed to do to achieve what they were looking for.
You'd risk your entire career and your livelihood that you'd spent decades investing in to make a moral stand of course, doing so in a context where people (demonstrating the behaviour you do so yourself in your own post) suggest you're somehow to blame by making a choice to "do what you needed to do". Unless you have actually done that you've no place to judge at all.

You're fond of the abstract. In the actual world the shortest route to removal would be if victims were to out the prick.
In an ideal world.

In a world where victims get shit and disbelieved-the actual world you talk of-you're talking shit.
 
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You'd risk your entire career and your livelihood that you'd spent decades investing in to make a moral stand of course, doing so in a context where people (demonstrating the behaviour you do so yourself in your own post) suggest you're somehow to blame by making a choice to "do what you needed to do". Unless you have actually done that you've no place to judge at all.

they had no career at that point, they were (in the main) just starting out and placed their own self interest above the greater good. he is clearly a twat who abused his position but the victims coming out now reek of self interest and have massively suspect morals keeping their mouths shut as fully aware adults. if he was a nobody who attempted similar his feet wouldnt have touched the ground.
 

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