Harvey Weinstein

if you or I tried to get someone into a threesome and get knocked back thats fine. With him there's the added implication that the decision would further your career or not, which is not ok
So how’s the fella meant to organise his threesomes?
 


Niver heard of him til this week like.

Probably the same as Savile, all his misdemeanours coming back to bite him on the arse. Unlike Savile he has to face the music.
 
Very noble of her to come out. Might have been more useful if she’d done it sooner.

‘He’s disgusting - I know exactly what he’s up to. So I went to his hotel room...’

They can't come out fast enough now. Don't want to get left behind staying quiet. People may think you're hiding something.

At least it stops them moralising to the world about Donald Trump and global warming.
 
Very noble of her to come out. Might have been more useful if she’d done it sooner.

‘He’s disgusting - I know exactly what he’s up to. So I went to his hotel room...’
I agree, the way they felt it was just normal to be abused muddies the water not to mention the millions of dollars they stood to gain if they went along with it vs. career destroyed if they told him to do one

The bloke had a hell of a lot of power over people and he used it
 
Very noble of her to come out. Might have been more useful if she’d done it sooner.

‘He’s disgusting - I know exactly what he’s up to. So I went to his hotel room...’
What exactly would you expect them to do? Shut up?
 
What exactly would you expect them to do? Shut up?

Eh? Re-read my first sentence.

I realize this has potential to be an enormously complicated issue involving gender politics, sexism etc etc but when these stories break (qf the Cosby case) I’m always a bit baffled as to why people who appear to be so outraged still keep their silence.

Lea Seydoux seems to have survived an encounter with HW with her career intact so how come her comments are dated yesterday. Could some other people have been saved the horror of having to deal with this creep had she made those comments sooner?

And I’m also baffled, as I suggest, why she woukd go up to his room if she already knew what he was like. It seems that his preying on women was Hollywood’s worst kept secret and yet everyone kept schtum until finally the cat is out of the bag and suddenly lasses are now falling over themselves to come out with stories of his bad behaviour.

Happy to be edumacated on this like.
 
Anyone having a go at anyone other than Weinstein here needs to fuck off. The only person at fault in any abuse situation is the abuser. If they don't abuse, nothing happens. There are abusers and their victims, and that's it. That's it. Most people go through their life without sexually abusing people. Don't make excuses for those who choose to do it. Speaking as a former policeman, there's no grey areas here. And anyone who has been abused, it's not their duty to speak out to stop someone being abusive. It's not their "silence" that leads to someone else becoming a victim, it's the fact that some **** is abusing women.
 
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What a load of utter shite. What anybody who was complicit in what was happening and helped him to carry out such acts?
Well he just outed himself as an ex copper so its not a huge surprise that he fails to see the subtleties of a very complex situation.
Fact one - while apparently not yet accused of any crime it seems fairly obvious HW is guilty of some despicable acts over several years. I don't see anyone on here defending or excusing that.

Fact two - this kind of thing can be a lot more complex than a black-white judgement as to who is wrong and who is blameless, and participating in a discussion of those subtleties rather than shutting it down with blanket statements may actually serve to enlighten and educate the participants who may not have given a lot of thought to the implications of perpetrators, victims, apologists, smearers, tacit cover-uppers, etc. And that includes me!
 
When you've got Emma Thompson coming out and saying it was known that Weinstein was a predator it makes a mockery of all the luvvies slating Trump when they were all pandering to this known abuser.

Just so we are clear, are you really excusing people doing bad things as long as they do some good?

He was making people serious money. Someone talks, then they all come out.
 
Anyone having a go at anyone other than Weinstein here needs to fuck off. The only person at fault in any abuse situation is the abuser. If they don't abuse, nothing happens. There are abusers and their victims, and that's it. That's it.

Wait, what?

Person A is aware that person B is serially abusing vulnerable people, for example. But A chooses not to say anything, for whatever reason, let's say because they fear it may harm their own career if they speak out, or they can't be arsed or whatever. You think literally no fault could ever be applied to A?
 
Wait, what?

Person A is aware that person B is serially abusing vulnerable people, for example. But A chooses not to say anything, for whatever reason, let's say because they fear it may harm their own career if they speak out, or they can't be arsed or whatever. You think literally no fault could ever be applied to A?
The only thing needed for evil to thrive is for good people to do nothing ... (or something!)
 

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