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WiseOldMan
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You can laugh all you want, it doesn't hide the fact you're up Shorts arse.
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You can laugh all you want, it doesn't hide the fact you're up Shorts arse.
Or looking at it another way, let them spend more money than the club could afford.Not everyone.
It doesn't matter whether we agreed with some of his appointments at the time anyway, since his tied most of their hands behind their backs. All of the managers you speak of didn't have very good things to say about him in the end. In fact all the managers under him slagged him off, they all can't be wrong can they?
How did we accrue such levels of debt by the way? Was it spending beyond our means, flying high in the premiership or was it financial ineptitude by our 'benevolent' owner?
If by fraud you mean a cowboy masquerading as a football owner then yes, he's guilty as charged.
How did we accrue such levels of debt by the way? Was it spending beyond our means, flying high in the premiership or was it financial ineptitude by our 'benevolent' owner?
If by fraud you mean a cowboy masquerading as a football owner then yes, he's guilty as charged.
By backing incompetent managers so they could spend it on complete duds like Rodwell, Borin and Fletcher who all cost the club millions but had no resale value or performance value.How did we accrue such levels of debt by the way? Was it spending beyond our means, flying high in the premiership or was it financial ineptitude by our 'benevolent' owner?
Not everyone.
It doesn't matter whether we agreed with some of his appointments at the time anyway, since his tied most of their hands behind their backs. All of the managers you speak of didn't have very good things to say about him in the end. In fact all the managers under him slagged him off, they all can't be wrong can they?
Up Short's arse?You can laugh all you want, it doesn't hide the fact you're up Shorts arse.
We hired managers, who most people were relatively happy with at the time, they didn't work out, we had to pay them off. We also signed a load of players - same drill, they didn't work, we lost money.
Honestly, I've got no problem at all with people wanting someone new to come in - I guess the thinking is the new people will lavish cash, and it'll all be rosy. Here's hoping.
But let's not get carried away with utter shite about the current owner trying to rob us, or in it for cash, or any of the other histrionics being bandied about on here. It's f***ing insane.
By backing incompetent managers so they could spend it on complete duds like Rodwell, Borin and Fletcher who all cost the club millions but had no resale value or performance value.
Bollox, he had a buyer and he didnt sell, this whole "i want to sell" thing is about making sure fans dont give him the abuse he deserves.
The debt is broadly equivalent to the net transfer spend. Simple as that. All PL money, gate money and other such income has gone on wages and day to day running costs. We're where we are because it's never dawned on anyone at the club that the best way to pay for transfers is to make roughly the same amount of money from selling players.
I'm not sure some are blessed with it at all. Despite the millions spent on a succession of big money buys who turned out to be very poor investments, there are still some who insist Short did not back managers. Do they really think even more should have been spent?Managers and players who most of cheered at the time of signing. I honestly thought Rodwell was going to be a great signing. I was desperate for Borini to sign after his loan spell. Hindsight - wonderful thing, which a lot of people on here seem to be blessed with, apparently. Pity they didn't use it at the time.
Totally wrong - they will go on meeting wages and running costs, just as the full payments did in the PL. No PL money has ever been used for investment purposes.
£200m in available losses is not be sniffed at - although they're far harder to group relieve away than they used to be.
Then he is a poor chairman if he doesnt care about commercial revenue. When the parachute payments are finished we will be knackered.SAFC takes the cash, not Ellis Short. Even if he did, I doubt he would give a shit about a few grand every other week.
You don't even go to the match man.Whatever it takes. He is destroying the club. Scum.
Or looking at it another way, let them spend more money than the club could afford.
You can't have it both ways. Either he's recklessly ran the club into the ground through allowing too much money to be spent or he hasn't backed the managers. Which one is it?
The debt is broadly equivalent to the net transfer spend. Simple as that. All PL money, gate money and other such income has gone on wages and day to day running costs. We're where we are because it's never dawned on anyone at the club that the best way to pay for transfers is to make roughly the same amount of money from selling players.
Being competitive enough you compete with the clubs that are currently in the top 6.What would you class as "backing us"?
But it was spending beyond our means ffs. It was more than we were bringing in.Both, he's incompetent at owning a football club and the decisions surrounding the running of it. If like other posters have mentioned that the net spend roughly that of the debt, then that equates to around 14M per season. Hardly pushing the boat out or spending beyond our means.
Right. So we all now hate him because we are crippled with debt, but in reality we should have spent more, much more to allow us to compete with the top 6.Being competitive enough you compete with the clubs that are currently in the top 6.
So what it takes to be in that position, that's backing us.
And before you mention the debt, it's owed to him anyway ffs.
This is his business, he obviously wants it to fail
He probably cares little about SAFC, certainly less than the fans who will be the ones who suffer if the club is starved of even more money.Then he is a poor chairman if he doesnt care about commercial revenue. When the parachute payments are finished we will be knackered.