SAFC2403
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i'm sure we (Littletown) will be more than happy to offer any advice required. Good luck!
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i'm sure we (Littletown) will be more than happy to offer any advice required. Good luck!
It's incredibly important that the DCL treats the NEDCL fairly. If the NEDCL is allowed to wither away piece by piece, just to save a couple of double weekends (or free weekends) in the DCL, then I think that's very, very short sighted.
If the promotion/relegation system is going to work long term, every league has to be valued/protected - especially with participation down all across local cricket. I'd sooner have two Saturdays off a year than see a league go to the wall.
If the promotion/relegation system is going to work long term, every league has to be valued/protected - especially with participation down all across local cricket. I'd sooner have two Saturdays off a year than see a league go to the wall.
I totally agree however leagues tend to look after their own interests first without looking at the bigger picture
As the number of clubs start to dwindle I can see more wanting to join NEDCL in years to come as they can only field 1 team. Looking at the number of conceeded games this year unless the numbers grow soon there will be teams who have no choice but to drop down like South Hetton did. 2nd teams in the NEPL conceeding and some have played with 7/8 players this year whislt 4 teams have 3 Saturday teams abd 100's of juniors to call upon
Local Cricket is in a bit of a mess so I can understand why DCL will look after number 1 if need be
ac arundez
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Tell Chris P to give me a buzz (GA - he'll know who you mean), I'll help you as much as I can. Believe me when I say overseas is an absolute minefield these days
Will do mate!
Played against you a few times whilst you were in NEDCL and I know Pratty was always complimentary.
How much does an overseas pro go for nowadays?
Visas are the biggest issue these days! So many hoops to jump through
SAFC2403
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2 from Dawdon, Bill Quay or Littletown.
Seaham Park v Dawdon
Bill Quay v Whiteleas
Littletown v Easington
Dawdon on 203
Bill Quay on 198
Littletown on 189
Promises to be a nailbiter!!
harmy
Striker
Got to fancy bill quay out of those games like..
What's forecast looking like? Just checked. Rain forecast for Friday and Saturday.weather going play a big part I reckon.
ac arundez
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Cheers mate. Appreciate that.
Use the term "pro" very loosely. Unless you get a licence for a tier 5 visa to bring in a "pro" (basically a first class cricketer or someone whose played FC in past) then you're looking at minimum wage, as well as Accom, flights and actual licence to start - from 6k minimum upwards.
You an pick up some great overseas amateurs although visa regs have tightened up drastically this year much to the frustration of many. So with the tightened rules around visas the standard has dropped in my opinion. But a good overseas amateur (as long as they haven't been on a player pathway) will be flights, Accom and weekly "living expenses".
Wouldn't bring too much more detail into an open forum on top of that as ECB and Home Office are cracking right down. There's lots of agents about but also lots of rouges as well. Believe me when I say our overseas of 2 years had his visa rejected on eve of this season and literally end tinto double figures in terms of replacements before we found a goer.
CP has my number though and I'll be Moreno than happy to come up and meet you for a pint to help you out
Thanks again for this mate - I'm sure we'll be in touch should we vote as a club to go up.
There's a lot of difficult decisions that need making. For example, for years our subs have run between the £20 - £30 region and I imagine that if we go up that they will need to drastically increase to help pay for a 'pro' etc... If that does happen, do we lose players who simply can't afford to pay that sort of money as well as regular match subs, provide teas etc...
Can a club compete without an overseas 'pro'? Looking at previous posts it seems a few have done so this season with the understanding that there wouldn't be a relegation. I'm sure not paying this outlay for a season has helped them. The likes of Crook etc... can make do because they have a very good local player in the likes of Andrew Pratt.
Just my opinion but I would never finance paid players, with money from their teammates. If you do it has to be the right person. Overseas pros in particular can be hit and miss, and if you end up with a bit of a flop, paid for by lads who have been there for years having to pay more subs, it could become a bit awkward.
If you can find a sponsor or some other revenue stream great, but as a local club I would look to keep faith with local unpaid lads, if money is an issue.
Sometimes worth looking round for younger local lads with a bit to prove, maybe wanting to move up to the higher level who would cost you nothing?
I agree....unless you have a bar that makes money to invest it's a costly to bring an overseas over
Flights, accommodation etc all add up. It's going to be even harder to get them this year due to the visa issues and likely clubs can either get an average player who hasnt played at a high standard or got to get someone who is a fully paid pro which will be a minimun 5 / 6k plus tax etc. The cost to get Tier 5 status is also about 2.5k which lasts for about 10 years but has to be paid upfront
Be better off offering a local lad a coaching role to develop juniors and play as i'm sure a few would do this and at least puts something back into your club
A club with no pro and decent local lads can compete in the bottom half of Div 2. Obviously it's all to do with the level of 'decency' of those local lads.
matt_catchpennie
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Think a good 'pro' can win you 4/5 games a season which without them would be loses. The close games usually the pros are the difference.
Think there is a reason the bottom 4 in the dcl2 are the bottom 4. But it's a balancing act and one that isn't easy. Think it all depends on how far a club wants to go. Without cash it's hard these days to challenge
eddyfinn
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So the DCL have confirmed there will be no relegation from DCL2 to the NEDCL. Hunwick will be invited to join the DCL if they meet the league requirements.
Castle Eden will automatically be promoted to premier league if Swalwell win the NTSL as they don't meet the premier league's requirements otherwise playoff between Castle Eden and Shotley Bridge will take place next week.
DCL are also accepting applications from other clubs
Castle Eden will automatically be promoted to premier league if Swalwell win the NTSL as they don't meet the premier league's requirements otherwise playoff between Castle Eden and Shotley Bridge will take place next week.
DCL are also accepting applications from other clubs
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This was uploaded to the NEPL website last year, gives the outline of what is needed to join the nepl
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Thanks, good find that.
robkitchuk
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Disgraceful to be honest. Defeats the whole point if a pyramid system and history repeats itself, the whole senior league - Durham City saga springs to mind. Hunwick deserve their place at the table. But in the sake of fairness a club should be relegated. Think DCL are totally out of order.
SAFC2403
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I'm in agreement with you - they certainly shouldnt be inviting clubs who havent won the league to apply as that defeats the object of the pyramid which the DCL and NEDCL have both now signed up to. Breaking their own rules a bit there mind.
Once the pyramid came into effect the only way clubs can go up is to win the league they are in.
Congrats to Hunwick for winning it and hope they give it a go.
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