Learner drivers on motorways from next year

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I asked our lass to drive the massive 80 miles to Appleby to meet us last week and she refused cos she's never really driven outside of Sunderland and has no experience of fast duals or motorway. She's been driving 20 years.

One thing my instructor beat into me when learning was 'due regard' if you are entering a road you should not cause someone else to have to accommodate you by slowing down or anything else. We did some training on dual carriageways and the main thing I learnt was to match speed with the existing traffic.
But that's blatantly obvious, isn't it? If you don't know that instinctively then you shouldn't be driving.

Some f***ing lunatics on the North York Moors last night mind. I was doing 50 odd in a 60 and people were getting up my are and doing risky overtakes all the way to Whitby.
Some of those hills down are 25 mph low gear jobs, the road was greasy, and people were still overtaking on the way down.
 
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I asked our lass to drive the massive 80 miles to Appleby to meet us last week and she refused cos she's never really driven outside of Sunderland and has no experience of fast duals or motorway. She's been driving 20 years.


But that's blatantly obvious, isn't it? If you don't know that instinctively then you shouldn't be driving.

Some f***ing lunatics on the North York Moors last night mind. I was doing 50 odd in a 60 and people were getting up my are and doing risky overtakes all the way to Whitby.
Some of those hills down are 25 mph low gear jobs, the road was greasy, and people were still overtaking on the way down.
To me it was but seeing others on the road it doesn't seem like many know it.
 
So you can see the car approaching at 60mph? Apply a bit of progressive braking and create a gap. It isn't hard. The other driver is a tit but having an attitude of the law say X therefore I'm right is only going to help cause accidents. React to the situation and take other road users bad driving in to account.

I was doing about 15mph braking wasnt going to solve the problem. Everyone assuming im doing about 50. I had no room I couldnt create room but the bad driver tried to pull in front. Hence the emergency brake.
 
The biggest education motorway drivers need is entering from a sliproad, amount of times ive avoided crashes because people thinkg they have a divine right to enter a motorway is unbelievable. You match the speed of the motorway and if its busy you stop, you don't just drive into a space that will cause people on the motorway near death.
This too, and you usually get a load of abuse off them if you can't move across to let them in.
 
I was doing about 15mph braking wasnt going to solve the problem. Everyone assuming im doing about 50. I had no room I couldnt create room but the bad driver tried to pull in front. Hence the emergency brake.
Isn't an emergency brake from 15mph to zero just braking.
 
Admittedly a long time ago, but the way it was described to me by my instructor is that sliproads are essentially angled T-junctions and you should only cross the dotted line when it's safe to do so.

You wouldn't pull straight out of a T-junction onto the main carriageway, expecting people to slow down to make way for you, so you shouldn't do it on a dual-carriageway or motorway unless you are absolutely sure it's safe to do so. If people are in a position to make space to let you on, then fair enough, but you should never, ever, try to force your way on.
 
Seem to remember when I was a learner all those years back I hopped onto a motorway by mistake.

cant see the issue tbh, just drive faster, driving on a motorway is miles easier than in congested traffic.
 
Its not that much different from a standard dual carriageway like the A19 anyway
Don't get me started about that shithole. f***ing cyclists going up and down the fucker today doing 25mph, some sort of race apparently, like an organised one. Saw three near crashes and one of the ***** on a bike was in the middle of the f***ing inside lane. Surely illegal? Disgusting, hope every single biker crashed into a f***ing brick wall.
 
Don't get me started about that shithole. f***ing cyclists going up and down the fucker today doing 25mph, some sort of race apparently, like an organised one. Saw three near crashes and one of the ***** on a bike was in the middle of the f***ing inside lane. Surely illegal? Disgusting, hope every single biker crashed into a f***ing brick wall.
Not sure it is illegal however it is very very stupid
 
Don't get me started about that shithole. f***ing cyclists going up and down the fucker today doing 25mph, some sort of race apparently, like an organised one. Saw three near crashes and one of the ***** on a bike was in the middle of the f***ing inside lane. Surely illegal? Disgusting, hope every single biker crashed into a f***ing brick wall.
I believe bicycles are allowed on A roads, just not motorways. Could be wrong like.
 
Don't get me started about that shithole. f***ing cyclists going up and down the fucker today doing 25mph, some sort of race apparently, like an organised one. Saw three near crashes and one of the ***** on a bike was in the middle of the f***ing inside lane. Surely illegal? Disgusting, hope every single biker crashed into a f***ing brick wall.
There's a time trial route down the a19
 
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