Learner drivers on motorways from next year

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Banks said:
The biggest education motorway drivers need is entering from a sliproad, amount of times ive avoided crashes because people thinkg they have a divine right to enter a motorway is unbelievable. You match the speed of the motorway and if its busy you stop, you don't just drive into a space that will cause people on the motorway near death.
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Additionally though, people on the inside lane should attempt to give way by moving over if it's clear to do so.
 
kossoff said:
Additionally though, people on the inside lane should attempt to give way by moving over if it's clear to do so.
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Totally agree but not the scenario im describing. Im talking first thing Monday morning small gap between cars in each lane and some idiot trys flying in front of you at 60mph.
 
sidneyeric said:
Try driving down the M62 in rush hour, it's a nightmare compared to say the A19.
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A huge metal girder was being transported over the moor on the 62 when I last went in the Manchester direction of it. Caused loads of problems as people overtaking were slowing down to gawp at it. In the midst of pissing down rain as well :lol:
 
Banks said:
The biggest education motorway drivers need is entering from a sliproad, amount of times ive avoided crashes because people thinkg they have a divine right to enter a motorway is unbelievable. You match the speed of the motorway and if its busy you stop, you don't just drive into a space that will cause people on the motorway near death.
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This ^^^^^ When I was learning I was lucky enough to have a neighbour who worked at the next factory to me in Peterlee on same hours so I did the A19 from Hartlepool every day to get the road hours in. On my last lesson the instructor took me on the A19 and as we approached the Sheraton sliproad I saw a car coming down and checked and kove to the right hand lane to let him in - got a bollocking from the instructor as the approaching car needs to do what @Banks writes above :) - not that any buggers does like :)
 
kossoff said:
Having to start from 0mph in a 1 litre car can be very dangerous.
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That needs to anticipated by the driver of the said car and those seeing the car is starting from a stationary position. Its only dangerous if you encounter dangerous and bad drivers.
 
Banks said:
Its only dangerous if people don't follow the laws of the road. If you enter a sliproad and can see waiting cars you wouldn't fly down the sliproad would you.
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I'm not really sure about your situation here like. You've just said someone is flying about at 60mph.
 
kossoff said:
I learned to drive on a motorway by taking myself out there at midnight when it was pretty quiet and drove for 10 or 15 miles getting used to the speed and the odd lane change, then pulled off and came back. Did this for a couple of nights and the went on in the days.

Sounds dangerous to let newbies on in the day time.
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:?::lol:
 
monkeytassle said:
I'm not really sure about your situation here like. You've just said someone is flying about at 60mph.
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Yes because they shouldn't be doing it :lol:

If I have no space in front and the right lane is busy what am I meant to do? In past I have had to emergency stop because of idiots and nearly had cars crash into me from behind all because people don't know the rules of the road.
 
Banks said:
Yes because they shouldn't be doing it :lol:

If I have no space in front and the right lane is busy what am I meant to do? In past I have had to emergency stop because of idiots and nearly had cars crash into me from behind all because people don't know the rules of the road.
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Just ease off and open up a gap. Having stationary cars on Motorways is madness.
 
monkeytassle said:
Just ease off and open up a gap. Having stationary cars on Motorways is madness.
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You cant ease off if traffic is already moving slowly. This is exactly my point, people don't look for hazards and think the motorway can just magically open up when it could be really busy. Too many people just floor it on a sliproad and don't give a toss about what they are about to enter, just because its a motorway doesn't mean everything goes out the window.
 
Banks said:
Is the incorrect answer and proves my point. The person entering gives way, people on motorway do nothing if they cant do nothing.
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Banks said:
Yes because they shouldn't be doing it :lol:

If I have no space in front and the right lane is busy what am I meant to do? In past I have had to emergency stop because of idiots and nearly had cars crash into me from behind all because people don't know the rules of the road.
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What we are seeing here is a complete lack of forward planning and anticipation. 'I've had to emergency stop' proves this without a single doubt.
Anticipate their may be traffic attempting to merge from a slip road. Anticipate early if moving to the middle / offside lane is a viable option. If not then be prepared to adjust your speed to allow vehicles to enter safely. Think of it as mutual respect. Think - it's the best of opportunities to get home safely to your family and friends. Think of how many have done similar as you join from a slip road.

If you've needed to emergency stop you need to re-evaluate whether you are safe to have a licence to drive.
 
VXi said:
What we are seeing here is a complete lack of forward planning and anticipation. 'I've had to emergency stop' proves this without a single doubt.
Anticipate their may be traffic attempting to merge from a slip road. Anticipate early if moving to the middle / offside lane is a viable option. If not then be prepared to adjust your speed to allow vehicles to enter safely. Think of it as mutual respect. Think - it's the best of opportunities to get home safely to your family and friends. Think of how many have done similar as you join from a slip road.

If you've needed to emergency stop you need to re-evaluate whether you are safe to have a licence to drive.
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:lol:

Couldn't be more wrong. A few questions for you:

How many drivers leave the legal safe stopping distance on a motorway? id say 10% if that

How many drivers approach slip roads at a speed higher than the current speed of the motorway?

I had to emergency stop as drivers incorrectly judge distances, they drive down sliproads doing 80-90 mph and try to "beat" current traffic on the road. A car travelling at a high speed cant enter a motorway safely, so you anticipate the car like follows the law and stops? When that car ignores the rules of the road things like emergency stops happen.

The replys im getting to this just shows im bang on the money here. Not one person has given a safe lawful answer. Each answer ignores the law of the road show its maybe those posters who shouldn't have a license.
 
I always thought it was weird that you didn't train for the motorway but were allowed on them as soon as you passed your test.

A very logical response to the problem. :lol:
 
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