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Benitez Future In Doubt Over Failure to Secure Key Signings

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You seem to be implying Benitez has bought poorly, or that we're being reckless with the money? Neither of these are the case.

In your opinion.

I think he is buying badly and continues to do so. If Man City have a season like last Pep will be sacked for wasting money.

Its irrelevant if Ashley is supplying money from player sales. You are still spending money. No championship club has ever spent the money you have in that league under one manager Ashley is a good chairman.
 

It's the other totally shite threads that keep pushing people onto this one :lol:


https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/sti-footballers.750107/



Here's one ....... next season NUFC will arrive at a point in their history whereby the entire second half of the existence will be totally free of the winning of a current major trophy.

Over 60 years without a celebration at Wembley or a title, longer than most of the Mags on here have been alive.

How can such a big club, with such incredible support, be such a massive failure?

You do like to use this 'current major trophy' to suit your argument but it really is invalid. Would you say Villa or Forest's achievements in Europe aren't as good because the European Cup they won is no longer a major tournament.

As for what you call a massive failure... I'd suggest at least we had a go, showed some ambition, challenged for the title. Travelling round Europe to watch your club play in Barcelona, Milan, Turin, Marseille etc were some of the best days of my life and I wouldn't swap them for anything.

Can you say your club has shown anywhere near the same ambition?
 
Alright chubs.

I'm hoping you used your enforced break to evaluate, and hopefully do something constructive with your life......but no doubt you were chomping at the bit to get back here and post about the Mags again. Like you do every single day of your life.

p.s. Re the pics, you show me yours and I'll show you mine. ;)



Wrong, we beat Liverpool in the Mercantile Credit Football Festival at Wembley in 1988.
Now then fatty, this is quite simple even for a sad obsessed cretin like yourself, I'm a Sunderland supporter who is a season card holder posting on a Sunderland forum. You are a non attending mag posting on a Sunderland forum who has me on your mind constantly.

I'm being polite, I need to keep replying to my little group of mag followers who hang on my every word and can't help thinking of me, you lot are a bit obsessed about me, understandable I suppose when you're just a bit shit.

So these pics you threatened to post, any chance?
 
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You do like to use this 'current major trophy' to suit your argument but it really is invalid. Would you say Villa or Forest's achievements in Europe aren't as good because the European Cup they won is no longer a major tournament.

As for what you call a massive failure... I'd suggest at least we had a go, showed some ambition, challenged for the title. Travelling round Europe to watch your club play in Barcelona, Milan, Turin, Marseille etc were some of the best days of my life and I wouldn't swap them for anything.

Can you say your club has shown anywhere near the same ambition?
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Here you go lads, we've got another one.
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Depends what was bought with the £85m. Turns out the money spent to go up was enough, but the market has changed significantly from one summer window to the next. Had we not got £80m from Sissoko, Wijnaldum etc. there is no way Ashley would have allowed £55m to be spent. Had we not got promoted we would not be spending again, look at Aston Villa's lack of expenditure thus far.

Man City have already spent £155m on players, £69m on right backs alone. Without taking into account the inflated window you would think that from where they were, such expenditure should deliver the title, but they're still not the favourites because of who they've brought in.

This isn't about fees paid for players, it's about standard of players brought in. Benitez bought 11 players for the Championship campaign, and (as has been repeated on here often) he'll need to change the squad again now that the team is in the Premier League. I saw someone say he should have bought young hungry players that could make the step up into the Premier League. Well that's great in hindsight, but it made total sense to build a side that would deliver automatic promotion, and worry about the squad for the Premier League once that's assured. Had we bought younger unproven inexperienced player we may have crumbled under the pressure of being favourites in nearly every game, of meeting expectations, of a long tough season.

If you'd said Ashley will give Benitez support in only 2 windows to get us up and keep us up I'd be concerned. If we end up spending another another £50m (we won't) and that delivers us safety, then it's money well spent as it's immediately paid for by the TV money. You seem to be implying Benitez has bought poorly, or that we're being reckless with the money? Neither of these are the case.



:lol: sorry, bit rough this morning.
Blah blah blah blah...........end of the day the waiter has spent 85m in a year.
 
Depends what was bought with the £85m. Turns out the money spent to go up was enough, but the market has changed significantly from one summer window to the next. Had we not got £80m from Sissoko, Wijnaldum etc. there is no way Ashley would have allowed £55m to be spent. Had we not got promoted we would not be spending again, look at Aston Villa's lack of expenditure thus far.

Man City have already spent £155m on players, £69m on right backs alone. Without taking into account the inflated window you would think that from where they were, such expenditure should deliver the title, but they're still not the favourites because of who they've brought in.

This isn't about fees paid for players, it's about standard of players brought in. Benitez bought 11 players for the Championship campaign, and (as has been repeated on here often) he'll need to change the squad again now that the team is in the Premier League. I saw someone say he should have bought young hungry players that could make the step up into the Premier League. Well that's great in hindsight, but it made total sense to build a side that would deliver automatic promotion, and worry about the squad for the Premier League once that's assured. Had we bought younger unproven inexperienced player we may have crumbled under the pressure of being favourites in nearly every game, of meeting expectations, of a long tough season.

If you'd said Ashley will give Benitez support in only 2 windows to get us up and keep us up I'd be concerned. If we end up spending another another £50m (we won't) and that delivers us safety, then it's money well spent as it's immediately paid for by the TV money. You seem to be implying Benitez has bought poorly, or that we're being reckless with the money? Neither of these are the case.



:lol: sorry, bit rough this morning.

The amount of money spent last summer that squad shouldnt need overhauled.
 
You do like to use this 'current major trophy' to suit your argument but it really is invalid. Would you say Villa or Forest's achievements in Europe aren't as good because the European Cup they won is no longer a major tournament.

As for what you call a massive failure... I'd suggest at least we had a go, showed some ambition, challenged for the title. Travelling round Europe to watch your club play in Barcelona, Milan, Turin, Marseille etc were some of the best days of my life and I wouldn't swap them for anything.

Can you say your club has shown anywhere near the same ambition?
How is the European cup won by Forest not now a major competition? The competition has been restructured/renamed but it's still the European cup. Madrid, Milans, Liverpools etc totals encompass everything since the competion began. The fairs cup didn't become the UEFA.
I agree with rest of your post by the way.
 
You do like to use this 'current major trophy' to suit your argument but it really is invalid. Would you say Villa or Forest's achievements in Europe aren't as good because the European Cup they won is no longer a major tournament.

As for what you call a massive failure... I'd suggest at least we had a go, showed some ambition, challenged for the title. Travelling round Europe to watch your club play in Barcelona, Milan, Turin, Marseille etc were some of the best days of my life and I wouldn't swap them for anything.

Can you say your club has shown anywhere near the same ambition?
Really?
 
You do like to use this 'current major trophy' to suit your argument but it really is invalid. Would you say Villa or Forest's achievements in Europe aren't as good because the European Cup they won is no longer a major tournament.

As for what you call a massive failure... I'd suggest at least we had a go, showed some ambition, challenged for the title. Travelling round Europe to watch your club play in Barcelona, Milan, Turin, Marseille etc were some of the best days of my life and I wouldn't swap them for anything.

Can you say your club has shown anywhere near the same ambition?

OK, so put me straight ...... what was the last current major trophy won by Newcastle, I'd say it was the FA Cup in 1955.

The Fairs Cup was disbanded and the cup given away.

It was never recognised by UEFA who started an entirely different competition with new qualification criteria and rules.



This thread isn't about Sunderland, Villa or Forest, it's about a club that's failed to win things since before you were born.
 
In your opinion.

I think he is buying badly and continues to do so. If Man City have a season like last Pep will be sacked for wasting money.

Its irrelevant if Ashley is supplying money from player sales. You are still spending money. No championship club has ever spent the money you have in that league under one manager Ashley is a good chairman.
Well, apart from Aston Villa. Who spent more. And who didn't get promoted. Certainly not as champions.
 
How is the European cup won by Forest not now a major competition? The competition has been restructured/renamed but it's still the European cup. Madrid, Milans, Liverpools etc totals encompass everything since the competion began. The fairs cup didn't become the UEFA.
I agree with rest of your post by the way.

It's not though, It's now the champions league and is a completely different competition to the European Cup of the 80s.

I'm just highlighting this constant use of a 'current major trophy'. The Fairs Cup was a pre-cursor to the UEFA Cup, there's no need to claim it wasn't simply because your local rivals won it.
 
How is the European cup won by Forest not now a major competition? The competition has been restructured/renamed but it's still the European cup. Madrid, Milans, Liverpools etc totals encompass everything since the competion began. The fairs cup didn't become the UEFA.
I agree with rest of your post by the way.
Surprised you haven't given him and the other mags a like. You're slipping.
 
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