chriswallace85
Striker
I dinnar.When people are saying "The authorities and The Police" they mean the ones specifically involved surely ?
Suppose it where we face up to reality but only by watching Tv,the one thing we use to escape it
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I dinnar.When people are saying "The authorities and The Police" they mean the ones specifically involved surely ?
Suppose it where we face up to reality but only by watching Tv,the one thing we use to escape it
So where is the smb's horror at the scale of child sexual abuse connected with football clubs? Thousands of kids in England and Scotland, hundreds of football clubs involved - 77 in London alone? George Ormond arrested today on 29 counts alone with probably more to follow...and there's clueless fuckwits in pf who are arguing that Newcastle should be docked points - like it's some kind of game - and we wouldn't even have that thread going if the mags weren't involved.I don't think it is the type of offender that is causing horror. It is the scale and spread of these crimes.
At least 1400 kids abused in Rotherham over 16 years, that's an average of 88 kids a year in a medium sized town!
The spread of these crimes is all 4 corners of England and in between. London, Bristol, Oxford, Blackburn and here in the north east.
It is also the fact that these crimes have been ignored for a variety of reasons which also brings a sense of injustice.
So where is the smb's horror at the scale of child sexual abuse connected with football clubs? Thousands of kids in England and Scotland, hundreds of football clubs involved - 77 in London alone? George Ormond arrested today on 29 counts alone with probably more to follow...and there's clueless fuckwits in pf who are arguing that Newcastle should be docked points - like it's some kind of game - and we wouldn't even have that thread going if the mags weren't involved.
Hundreds of kids identified with dozens taken into care from family homes in Scotland in Operation Latisse.
Excuse me if I don't think that simple scale is the overriding concern of too many people here...or should I say that scale by itself isn't the overriding concern.
Oh Aye - Leon Brittan - file under conspiracy rather than rape eh? He was Tory and 'looked 'wrang'...Same with Cliff Richard - no end of shite on these boards about him either....but everyone just KNOWS he's a fiddler, don't they. I mean...a god botherer who has no obvious interest in women...must be a paedo.There are huge threads all over this forum about child abuse committed by other groups, for example the Leon Brittan thread. Again you are using another stock excuse to deflect.
I really dont know either. Seems to me that some specialise in defence as you see the same ones with the local scallys all the time. Guess they just become "conditioned" to it and perhaps specialise in certain cases?
Yes, it's down to the 'Everyone has a right to have a fair trial' in the 1998 Human Rights Act and is a fundamental within our law.
They should be in Fkin jail. I was more angry with them than the abusers!There'll be a few from social services and police who will have to live with this guilt and ridicule for years to come, and rightly so, the useless gets
on similar note, i'm surprised that sunderland children services failures never received more publicity as that sounds a right shambles also
So where is the smb's horror at the scale of child sexual abuse connected with football clubs? Thousands of kids in England and Scotland, hundreds of football clubs involved - 77 in London alone? George Ormond arrested today on 29 counts alone with probably more to follow...and there's clueless fuckwits in pf who are arguing that Newcastle should be docked points - like it's some kind of game - and we wouldn't even have that thread going if the mags weren't involved.
Hundreds of kids identified with dozens taken into care from family homes in Scotland in Operation Latisse.
Excuse me if I don't think that simple scale is the overriding concern of too many people here...or should I say that scale by itself isn't the overriding concern.
I rarely criticise Social Workers I know how difficult it is but, those in the first episode should have been shot with shit.All we can hope is that lessons have been learned from it.
Operation Hydrant is just showing the tip of a very big iceberg. 1016 football related referrals as of April this year and comments from child abuse lawyer Dino Nocivelli who has prosecuted the catholic church and the scout movement?...'only' 83 from 2000...again “are very likely the tip of the iceberg”.The football abuse scandal is fairly recent and involves hundreds not thousands. None of the details have been made public in court. It also appears to be a relatively small number of individuals, perhaps 20 abusing over long periods not large groups of sexual predators. In some of these rings there are more than 20 involved in one town.
I did point out to my GF last night that the ex MP of Rochdale Cyril Smith was into 'little boys'. The scandal of people in positions of trust abusing that power is of course appalling. You can't say there hasn't been complete outrage after the yew tree investigations into the rich and famous.
As I said earlier Maxine Peake is a tremendous actress. Dennis Pennis made my eyes go a bit watery too.Just finished it.
Jesus! When Sara had a go at the lady copper in episode 2, I was blubbing like a bairn! Some actress she is. Then when the father told of how proud he was..I was destroyed.
I'm not usually the emotional type when watching tele/films but that scene with Holly and her Dad had a bit of dust in my eyes.
Can't believe what happened to Sara Rowbotham afterwards, essentially sidelined then forced out of her job. Shocking.
I'm not usually the emotional type when watching tele/films but that scene with Holly and her Dad had a bit of dust in my eyes.
Can't believe what happened to Sara Rowbotham afterwards, essentially sidelined then forced out of her job. Shocking.
That's interesting because without knowing anything about her, I'd suspected they'd toned down Amber because she didn't come across as 'unreliable' as they made out.This is a tough watch in our house. Mrs Pie interviewed Holly and Amber a few years ago and she's in bits here, reckons they have the mannerisms spot on.