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My sister's fella is a benefit scrounging two pack a day smoker who spends all day in the pub. One of those cargoes who would absolutely either and die if he had to go a day ... no, a few hours without a tab and a pint.

I just look at him and think 'what a weak as piss waste of skin'. The human body is capable of such a multitude of achievements and this sackless git has got no further thought than to sit there and poison it hour after hour.

How f***ing weak and senseless donyou have to be to be a smoker these days? And while I like an occasional beer or two, how pathetic do you have to be if you can't get through a day without swilling down bucket loads of beer or coffee or whatever just so you can pretend to function?

And now we have vaping to add to the mix. What a load of shite!

I was smoking a pack of tabs a day, started when my Dad's health was in decline, and continued for a while after he died. Two years in all. I won't deny they were very relaxing, but I decided to quit because only morons smoke. I was a moron, I knew this and I didn't care.

The quitting bit was no bother- I stopped smoking one day and got on with my life without them. I can't say I really had any serious withdrawal issues. The worst bit was realising how much my effing clothes stunk of smoke!
 


I'm not sure exactly what you've heard Putin say, but the Russain government run their own big tobacco industry. The same thing is happening in another 12 countries or so right now.

That's not to mention the huge big tobacco companies operating independantly around the world which pay billions in various subsidies to governments.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-disease-cancer-health-ministry-a7518691.html

The tabloids were reporting it as definite rather than on the table.

There's opposition but there's always opposition and even though they have undoubted influence I say that this will happen eventually and it will be a good thing.
 
Until they discover it isn't.

then you have to look at who 'they' are, and follow the money trail. it all leads back to the big tobacco/pharma

I was smoking a pack of tabs a day, started when my Dad's health was in decline, and continued for a while after he died. Two years in all. I won't deny they were very relaxing, but I decided to quit because only morons smoke. I was a moron, I knew this and I didn't care.

The quitting bit was no bother- I stopped smoking one day and got on with my life without them. I can't say I really had any serious withdrawal issues. The worst bit was realising how much my effing clothes stunk of smoke!

apparantly only 3% can cold turkey quit. WD
 
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My sister's fella is a benefit scrounging two pack a day smoker who spends all day in the pub. One of those cargoes who would absolutely either and die if he had to go a day ... no, a few hours without a tab and a pint.

I just look at him and think 'what a weak as piss waste of skin'. The human body is capable of such a multitude of achievements and this sackless git has got no further thought than to sit there and poison it hour after hour.

How f***ing weak and senseless donyou have to be to be a smoker these days? And while I like an occasional beer or two, how pathetic do you have to be if you can't get through a day without swilling down bucket loads of beer or coffee or whatever just so you can pretend to function?

And now we have vaping to add to the mix. What a load of shite!
You judgemental f***ing ****
 
You judgemental f***ing ****


Yup. That's me. I judge anyone who has taken up smoking since about the mid sixties as f***ing idiots and those who can't stop as f***ing weak.

I include in that group both my parents who were both smokers, my Mam would proudly announce that she smoked through four pregnancies without any ill effects to her or us kids. They both died of lung cancer. f***ing idiots!
 
I know I was (half) watching it.


The concerns are that vaping is increasingly being taken up by kids who don't use tobacco. It might reduce tobacco related diseases but there should be a voluntary scheme to restrict sales to folk who smoke rather than get them used to receiving that oral pleasure which isn't going to do them any good.

Tobacco should be made illegal for all kids starting school and then that ban should follow them from that age after that until we are totally tobacco free...vaping included. This should be implemented tomorrow.

It is, and kids are decreasingly taking up smoking.
 
You're kidding right? I've already covered the 'enjoyment' factor.
Increased heart rate - hardening of arteries - heart less efficient and working harder - raised blood pressure and increased risk of strokes. That's really relaxing that is.
I'm not saying smoking is better than vaping - tobacco should have been banned across the board years ago - I'm merely pointing out that there are some enjoyable things about having a tab. We don't all sit ther and go "must have another cancer stick cos I wish to hurtle faster towards death" like it's an addiction that we can't help. Some of us are social smoker cos we actually enjoy the experience.

As a side note, why are beers getting stronger and stronger when, knowing the problems that alcohol causes, they could just as easily be capped at a session level? Sure, you can get a weaker version of your favourite wife beater, but a couple of pumps along there are numerous real ales north of 5%. I had a pint of 10% the other day, which was just in a row of normal pumps. When did this become a standard pint and not a special occasion one-off, hidden away at the back of the fridge?
 
My sister's fella is a benefit scrounging two pack a day smoker who spends all day in the pub. One of those cargoes who would absolutely either and die if he had to go a day ... no, a few hours without a tab and a pint.

I just look at him and think 'what a weak as piss waste of skin'. The human body is capable of such a multitude of achievements and this sackless git has got no further thought than to sit there and poison it hour after hour.

How f***ing weak and senseless donyou have to be to be a smoker these days? And while I like an occasional beer or two, how pathetic do you have to be if you can't get through a day without swilling down bucket loads of beer or coffee or whatever just so you can pretend to function?

And now we have vaping to add to the mix. What a load of shite!

Rules.
 
Believe me you wouldn't. Fat, ginger and pushing 60!

You would probably be right, but we can't have this place going to the dogs!

Also, smokers, vapists and people who claim they cannot function without caffeine etc are very weak individuals, one hundred percent agreed.
 
I was a smoker for half of my life started at age 15. I stopped smoking at age 21 due to my grappling where I won my the provincial championship in my weight class. Started again at age 23.

At age 31 I started vaping and have never looked back. Tried one cigarette after and it was not as satisfying.

The downside to vaping is the cost. I spend approximately $300 - $700 on vaping per month but worth every penny.

How the hell are you spending that much, I get through a hefty amount of juice but dont think I spend more than £20 a month now after switching to DIY.

Its not long now till the do gooder backward nonsense vaping regulations kick in. Its going to make vaping more costly & complicated.
 
You're wrong. You are addicted.

Simple test.

The first puff of tobacco wasn't that enjoyable. Right? In fact it was probably rank but you continued until the tobacco went to work into fooling your body that it was a pleasurable experience....for that is the way tobacco works. Your body still sees the product as a pleasurable experience and this is why you still smoke...occasionally. If you weren't addicted you would take one puff...one....and you would be feeling like vomiting.

The addiction test.
Your 'test' is flawed. There's loads of things that aren't enjoyable at first but people continue doing and enjoy them. That's not addiction.
 
My sister's fella is a benefit scrounging two pack a day smoker who spends all day in the pub. One of those cargoes who would absolutely either and die if he had to go a day ... no, a few hours without a tab and a pint.

I just look at him and think 'what a weak as piss waste of skin'. The human body is capable of such a multitude of achievements and this sackless git has got no further thought than to sit there and poison it hour after hour.

How f***ing weak and senseless donyou have to be to be a smoker these days? And while I like an occasional beer or two, how pathetic do you have to be if you can't get through a day without swilling down bucket loads of beer or coffee or whatever just so you can pretend to function?

And now we have vaping to add to the mix. What a load of shite!
Sorry like but I got put off at at an early age by dad for smoking like age of 7. But I couldn't give a fuck if people do.

Yeah I'd prefer my dad and friends to stop. But they are free to do so, power to them.
 
My sister's fella is a benefit scrounging two pack a day smoker who spends all day in the pub. One of those cargoes who would absolutely either and die if he had to go a day ... no, a few hours without a tab and a pint.

I just look at him and think 'what a weak as piss waste of skin'. The human body is capable of such a multitude of achievements and this sackless git has got no further thought than to sit there and poison it hour after hour.

How f***ing weak and senseless donyou have to be to be a smoker these days? And while I like an occasional beer or two, how pathetic do you have to be if you can't get through a day without swilling down bucket loads of beer or coffee or whatever just so you can pretend to function?

And now we have vaping to add to the mix. What a load of shite!

I have coffee everyday mind. I'm so used to doing it it's probably an addiction. I don't see it as being pathetic though, just an excuse for an extra few minutes break at work a couple of times a day.

Jogging for one
Aye im trying to get into that but hate it at the minute.

Boxing another one. I doubt anyone went into the gym for the first time, got a couple of punches to the head and thought that was nice. Still go back though and becomes something they enjoy.
 
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How the hell are you spending that much, I get through a hefty amount of juice but dont think I spend more than £20 a month now after switching to DIY.

Its not long now till the do gooder backward nonsense vaping regulations kick in. Its going to make vaping more costly & complicated.

Imported Ejuice, tanks, mods etc

I have coffee everyday mind. I'm so used to doing it it's probably an addiction. I don't see it as being pathetic though, just an excuse for an extra few minutes break at work a couple of times a day.


Aye im trying to get into that but hate it at the minute.

Boxing another one. I doubt anyone went into the gym for the first time, got a couple of punches to the head and thought that was nice. Still go back though and becomes something they enjoy.
http://imgur.com/a/kJPw1
 
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