Sky BT and other ISPs trying to ban Kodi and now streaming sites

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There are two elements to this.

One is price. People who stream games that are shown on sky, bt etc are doing so as they do not want to pay for that service. In my opinion that is wrong, but each to their own.

The second element is access to games that are not broadcast on UK TV, such as our away games. This, I fully understand as people do not even have the option to pay for it if they wish to do. However, there are larger factors to take into consideration such as the impact on attendances that open streaming may cause.

I would happily pay for a Sunderland season ticket home and away (having kids mean cant get to many games)....So instead of getting some money from me, the club/Sky get nowt, sounds a cracking business model.
 


I would happily pay for a Sunderland season ticket home and away (having kids mean cant get to many games)....So instead of getting some money from me, the club/Sky get nowt, sounds a cracking business model.

They have no control over it. It's FA rules that no 3pm kick off can be televised.
 
They have no control over it. It's FA rules that no 3pm kick off can be televised.

A rule that is beyond outdated and should be changed to reflect the modern world....They are not stopping anybody who wants to watch these games seeing them, they are just failing to make any money out of it, its beyond ridiculous.
 
You now have to pay BT and Sky a combined total of around 100 quid to receive the same games you paid half that amount for just a few years ago. The punter is being well and truly fleeced by the Premier League but the real beneficiaries are the agents and players whose salaries have also doubled accordingly.

I cancelled sky this year after 15 years and have no intention of resubscribing. The punters are voting with their feet and I hope the Premier League's model of greed comes crashing down.
 
Sky broadband are sending letters to p2p (torrents) users demanding that they delete p2p software from their computers and stop using p2p or they'll suspend their broadband. I'm wondering if they're going to try and ban VPNs. Does any techy person on here have any knowledge about this please?
 
Sky broadband are sending letters to p2p (torrents) users demanding that they delete p2p software from their computers and stop using p2p or they'll suspend their broadband. I'm wondering if they're going to try and ban VPNs. Does any techy person on here have any knowledge about this please?

Damn Sky to hell, if only there were other ISP's people could just tell them to fuck off and sign up elsewhere. :rolleyes:
 
I've found sky to be generally laissez faire when it comes to stuff like this. When other providers were imposing draconian 'fair useage' policies and trying in vain to block certain sites, generally they haven't given a flying fuck.
 
Sky have lost the champions league, some premier league games, the big bash, Australia cricket (ashes) and goodness knows what else in the last few year yet they put the price up and force the Chinese league, MLS, the South African twenty20, f1 (you'd think it never existed prior to them having it) on us.

BT have 1 game a week and it costs a fortune cos they paid over the odds for it.

If they send me a letter telling me they are monitoring my usage I will sack them off. The fa should be looking into season tickets for away fans, you'd think it was still the 1960's the way they go on.
 
Damn Sky to hell, if only there were other ISP's people could just tell them to fuck off and sign up elsewhere. :rolleyes:

Once one starts doing it the other ones will come under pressure from the content industries to do the same.

Currently the worst that happens is your ISP sends you a letter saying your IP address has been downloading copywrited material and would you please stop, here are a list of websites where you can legally obtain content. If you don't stop downloading copywrited material they send you a second and third letter and then just stop sending letters.

Somehow I can't see this putting people off downloading stuff. I'm sure eventually they'll crank up the enforcement measures which will probably start with something like a universal p2p software ban. But then everybody will just download via cyberlockers or whatever and then they'll ban them. If everybody switches to VPNs then they'll try and ban them too.

What I want to know is can they ban VPNs? VPNs have legitimate uses too. Would a VPN ban be possible?
 
Sky broadband are sending letters to p2p (torrents) users demanding that they delete p2p software from their computers and stop using p2p or they'll suspend their broadband. I'm wondering if they're going to try and ban VPNs. Does any techy person on here have any knowledge about this please?

Absolutely no way. Ever!

VPN's are used for a whole host of legal things. Not a chance in hell they would/could block them.
 
Once one starts doing it the other ones will come under pressure from the content industries to do the same.

Currently the worst that happens is your ISP sends you a letter saying your IP address has been downloading copywrited material and would you please stop, here are a list of websites where you can legally obtain content. If you don't stop downloading copywrited material they send you a second and third letter and then just stop sending letters.

Somehow I can't see this putting people off downloading stuff. I'm sure eventually they'll crank up the enforcement measures which will probably start with something like a universal p2p software ban. But then everybody will just download via cyberlockers or whatever and then they'll ban them. If everybody switches to VPNs then they'll try and ban them too.

What I want to know is can they ban VPNs? VPNs have legitimate uses too. Would a VPN ban be possible?
it will put a lot of people off as a l9t of usually law abiding people do it without realising what they're doing. I know a few who won't download from them again
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A rule that is beyond outdated and should be changed to reflect the modern world....They are not stopping anybody who wants to watch these games seeing them, they are just failing to make any money out of it, its beyond ridiculous.

Not strictly true, you're assuming everyone has a computer and the general IT knowledge to find and work a stream.

My parents don't have a computer and my dad goes to watch Billingham Synthonia when we're away. If the Sunderland match was on tele he would stay in and watch that instead. He cant be the only one in this position.
 
Premier League and Champions League, all the games, I'd pay £30-35 a month for I reckon on a high quality picture.

As it is though quite happy watching every game I want to watch for fuck all
 
Once one starts doing it the other ones will come under pressure from the content industries to do the same.

Currently the worst that happens is your ISP sends you a letter saying your IP address has been downloading copywrited material and would you please stop, here are a list of websites where you can legally obtain content. If you don't stop downloading copywrited material they send you a second and third letter and then just stop sending letters.

Somehow I can't see this putting people off downloading stuff. I'm sure eventually they'll crank up the enforcement measures which will probably start with something like a universal p2p software ban. But then everybody will just download via cyberlockers or whatever and then they'll ban them. If everybody switches to VPNs then they'll try and ban them too.

What I want to know is can they ban VPNs? VPNs have legitimate uses too. Would a VPN ban be possible?
I have to use a vpn for work!
 
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