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Rafa Out Bingo

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Regardless of any myth, I think we can all agree Rafa is a better manager than Tufty.
I hope he stays as I am curious to see how he fares in the Championship.
Could do okay as he is a manager that likes solid organised teams rather than flair (hence the Real fans not liking him).
But any manager that sells Xabi Alonso to fund a bid for Gareth Barry has poor judgement imo, absolute train wreck of a decision.
I just don't want them to get a Pearson or the like which would pretty much guarantee promotion.
 

He had all of his relegation rivals to play and got beat off all of them. The villa game didn't relegate them alone but failing to beat any of the teams around them did :lol:
 
They want him to stay because he's a big name and they crave celebrity status in all its forms....from the famous number 9 and the need for marquee signings to their celebrity fans and the myth of the Geordie nation all rooting for the mags (clearly ignoring all the Geordies who follow Sunderland). It allows them to retain their vanity, and the idea of being rejected (again, after Pardew left them last time round) is too hard to bear. And as usual, just like the signings who are bigged up beyond reality after showing a touch of early promise, they're happy to ignore any of the shortcomings that are glaringly obvious to the rest of the world. Long may it continue.
 
The Great Soprendo said:
They want him to stay because he's a big name and they crave celebrity status in all its forms....from the famous number 9 and the need for marquee signings to their celebrity fans and the myth of the Geordie nation all rooting for the mags (clearly ignoring all the Geordies who follow Sunderland). It allows them to retain their vanity, and the idea of being rejected (again, after Pardew left them last time round) is too hard to bear. And as usual, just like the signings who are bigged up beyond reality after showing a touch of early promise, they're happy to ignore any of the shortcomings that are glaringly obvious to the rest of the world. Long may it continue.
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It's not that. If you had a choice of potential managers out of say - Benitez, Bruce, Pearson, Curbishley etc, who would you choose? I'd always personally choose the best manager, which is Benitez
 
chuckyroll said:
Media and the like on a constant wankathon about what he's done since he came in . As already stated those 3 games v the dross around them yielded 2 points . Don't get the improvement thing the 2 games they won were fortunate too even tho Swansea plated in plimsolls
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and palace missed a penalty in one of his victories otherwise they would be second bottom deluded fuckers
 
kelsoray said:
and palace missed a penalty in one of his victories otherwise they would be second bottom deluded fuckers
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Swansea missed several very good chances at 1-0 and dominated them for a spell too. Plus, if it weren't for our own deficiencies, we'd have put them to the sword in the derby as we were totally in control and far the better side for 70 minutes.
 
Billy2Sheds said:
It's not that. If you had a choice of potential managers out of say - Benitez, Bruce, Pearson, Curbishley etc, who would you choose? I'd always personally choose the best manager, which is Benitez
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I'd choose the one most suited to the job in hand. Which in your case is getting out of the Championship. A pragmatic, hard-nosed bastard like Pearson is what you want IMO.
 
Howard the Duck said:
Swansea missed several very good chances at 1-0 and dominated them for a spell too. Plus, if it weren't for our own deficiencies, we'd have put them to the sword in the derby as we were totally in control and far the better side for 70 minutes.
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expecting us to get beat against watford as we will put out a weakened team whereas the mags could beat spurs which would mean the point gained at SJP would be the difference between staying up and going down - talk about rubbing salt in their wounds
 
The Great Soprendo said:
I'd choose the one most suited to the job in hand. Which in your case is getting out of the Championship. A pragmatic, hard-nosed bastard like Pearson is what you want IMO.
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Then what? What happens if we go up? Pearson has us rooted at the bottom all season like he did with Leicester, only narrowly surviving at the end of the season?
 
"I think Rafa manages for Rafa. If someone comes in for him he'll be away, but if not, he'll stay".
Andy Gray on Talk Sport this am.:D
 
Reiver said:
...... is crystallising.

Bit by bit, thanks to the likes of Thewliss and the rest of the media, the myth is being carved in stone that 'if only Rafa had come in a month earlier' they would've avoided relegation and would now be starting the march to glory ...... well it's bollocks.

Under McClaren the cry was always 'loads of quality, just need a little organisation', I saw it posted on here dozens of times.

When Benitez was appointed he repeated that 'fact' and pointed out why they would stay up. "We need to give the players confidence. I know we have ability,” he says, "I’m here because I believe we’re good enough to stay in the Premier League.”

He was given huge wages and an open hand to do whatever it took to save the club from relegation.
He said he could do the job, with that squad, in the time he had.
Tufty was derided for insisting they were improving ......... Newcastle were rubbish against Villa but it isn't the fault of the latest Messiah, no sir.

In reality, whatever the claims that he's 'tightened up the defence' or 'instilled a new ethic' they're still shite.

The facts, rather than the fiction, are that since he arrived Newcastle have failed against Sunderland, Norwich & Villa. The new improved defence conceded 8 goals in the 3 away games before Villa and they only managed 3 on target shots at Villa Park ........ Villa had conceded an average of 3 goals in the 5 previous games.

In a game Newcastle simply had to win, Benitez got the tactics, selection and substitutions wrong.

So now Ashley has to take the blame, as usual, because King Rafa was 'brought in too late'.

I truly hope he stays, as everyone seems to be praying for, and makes a complete fuck up as he's done so far.
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You know I'm a stat man fella. A Myth it truly is. Befoe the Everton game put this together showing the Mags did nowt but stand still. He was tasked with getting two points more than the Big man who's won nowt compared to all his fantastic achivements and had a squad we were all told by mags was far superior to ours. This is what I found.

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Gone down and they still want it both ways. Mags will always be the prime example of delusion in football. Hope they keep him. Massively over rated and particularly liked anywhere outside Liverpool and Newcastle.
 
Big Funk Allardyce said:
You know I'm a stat man fella. A Myth it truly is. Befoe the Everton game put this together showing the Mags did nowt but stand still. He was tasked with getting two points more than the Big man who's won nowt compared to all his fantastic achivements and had a squad we were all told by mags was far superior to ours. This is what I found.

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Gone down and they still want it both ways. Mags will always be the prime example of delusion in football. Hope they keep him. Massively over rated and particularly liked anywhere outside Liverpool and Newcastle.
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Don't post facts mate, they only want fiction ....... I hope he stays and becomes their Advocaat.

It would be beyond hilarious to see them all put their Rafa masks away when they're mid-table half way through the season.
 
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Reiver said:
Don't post facts mate, they only want fiction ....... I hope he stays and becomes their Advocaat.

It would be beyond hilarious to see them all put their Rafa masks away when they're mid-table half way through the season.
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He won't stay. He doesn't have the appetite or the backbone for that sort of challenge after failing spectacularly in the past. If it's not a ready made squad from a top flight club he fails. And even then he usually leaves them worse of when he goes.
 
Big Funk Allardyce said:
He won't stay. He doesn't have the appetite or the backbone for that sort of challenge after failing spectacularly in the past. If it's not a ready made squad from a top flight club he fails. And even then he usually leaves them worse of when he goes.
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"Alan Shearer, the last manager to relegate Newcastle says he would be "amazed" if Rafael Benitez were to remain as the club's manager."
 
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