Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

[Keith S30S]

Still serious enough for us to sack him

As soon as he pleaded guilty he was toxic and after lying and stringing the club along for nearly a year his position was completely untenable.

However, I maintain an ordinary bloke on the street wouldn't have been given a custodial sentence for those charges alone.

Also Johnson had been maintaining that he was not guilty of all charges.

 

[Maximus]

See, I wonder if he DID tell the club that he kissed a 15 year old girl, BUT used the same lie he told Stacey... That the girl told him she was 16. Makes it more defendable.

Objection!

That's hearsay, pure and simple! Other shit groups and songs are available.

 

[Reiver]

Do you think it will get a mention on BBC1 Question Time??

Of course ...... it's the posh version of 'Jeremy Kyle' and they won't get viewers with stories of anything as mundane as people starving.

 

[Lipso]

Why not? The club could invite a group of supporters, answer their questions and they can then release a joint statement.

As I have said numerous times, this is a matter between the fans and club.

How the hell would you suggest they go about said fans? 'Strikers' on here?

Fuck sake, they released a press statement to media, fans, Tom, Dick and Harry. If you are serious about a conference between fans and the board I am amazed.

 

[haway]

I don't think that can effect it, because that's everyone's right I think. Mind there is no guarantee the appeal will be granted his barrister will have to evidence grounds for appeal I think.


Then we really will be top news

Very specific grounds for appeal iirc;
1) new evidence comes to light
2) the judge misdirected the jury
3) no rational jury could reach the verdict.

Nothing else can possibly be considered for an appeal.

Can't be one at this stage, 2 depends on what the judge said, who knows, and 3 seems unlikely based on the minimal evidence we saw in the press...

 

[Two-Lane Blacktop]

Think am still shocked by it all.

 

[Reiver]

Tbf. He started abusing me for no reason and sending pms to me for some strange reason. He stalks my Twitter and refuses to reveal himself.

If he wants to bury the hatchet then I'm more than happy too. He's the one constantly on my case.

That's fine but you can't really lecture people for doing the same as you're doing tbf.

 

[CharlieCroker]

I think Johnson is clearly a selfish individual who is an absolute disgrace. I have absolutely no sympathy for him. But I believe the other party involved is also accountable for their actions. She was aware that Johnson was in a relationship and had a child. Sorry but I don't subscribe to the 'poor young lass' view

Doesn't matter though, does it?

 

[luvulongtime]

Aye but the oral sex would be quite a big escalation and it wasn't proven so I think 3 to 4 is a goos starting point.

Not a chance in hell it will be 6 or 7 and if it was it would go straight to the appeals court and be battered down to 3 or 4 imo.

i agree about the blowjob that's why it took 2 days back and forth about his plums being trimmed or shaved both sides knew this was the vital point in the accusation and pivotal to his sentence.imagine his embarresment having to sit there whilst 8 women and 4 men view pics of your chucky

 

[MooBaaOink]

The fact he was in a position of power being her 'favourite player' is a massive factor on how the judge will deicide this. This wasn't some clown who met a bird and tried to tap her, he knew she idolised him and he was a 'celebrity' in her eyes and he used that to get what he wanted. The bloke's a grade A cünt and the people trying to defend him need to have a word with themselves. If this was some fella caught by Dark Justice they would have the pitchforks out.

I think only the Grade A idiots are trying to do that.

The thing that boils my piss is people who can't even get the well publicised facts right. The shite that's being spouted still - she met him in a nightclub, he was found not guilty of sexual intercourse, she looks much older than 15 (when the pic is his now ex lass) etc etc etc.

Even the Echo Live feed completely changed it's mind the next day for certain points.

 

[T_Bone]

We'll see. To some extent it's always pointless speculating what sentence a judge will give because if you have one who thinks that the fact he's a premier league footballer and he only pleaded at the last second to the two, and showed contempt in court etc. then maybe yes, 5 years. Equally, you get a judge who takes the age/ non sex as more salient and maybe you're talking 2 1/2 - and since none of us know what type of sentencer the judge is like who knows.

All I'd say is looking at similar sentences it would be pretty unusual for it to be more than 4 years, imo.

Who gives a Feck, reckon we could win this Satda ?

 

[Lipso]

As soon as he pleaded guilty he was toxic and after lying and stringing the club along for nearly a year his position was completely untenable.

However, I maintain an ordinary bloke on the street wouldn't have been given a custodial sentence for those charges alone.

The charges Johnson faces?

 

[janey]

Very specific grounds for appeal iirc;
1) new evidence comes to light
2) the judge misdirected the jury
3) no rational jury could reach the verdict.

Nothing else can possibly be considered for an appeal.

Can't be one at this stage, 2 depends on what the judge said, who knows, and 3 seems unlikely based on the minimal evidence we saw in the press...

I think there is points of law (or words to that effect) or the fair trial business which is usually related to press/media coverage, I suppose his barrister might think he has a case for that but he'd still have to prove it was a factor.

 

[Mowgli]

That's fine but you can't really lecture people for doing the same as you're doing tbf.

Well I reckon there's a difference from saying he's thick and an attention seeking compared to the size of somebody's head like that's a bit more offensive IMO.

Let's not derail the thread, you knew my point.

 

[haway]

Who gives a Feck, reckon we could win this Satda ?

Unlikely imo, but depends if the side that turned up against west ham or crystal palace plays.

 

[Reiver]

here some opinions from the time the original arrest:

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/johnson-free-to-play-for-sunderland.1067833/page-28#post-20260567

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/johnson.1051922/page-3#post-20013835

I think what is largely forgotten in all this, is that this was a young Sunderland supporter and the club should come out an acknowledge that they could and should have handled the situation a lot better. If they did not feel like they could terminate his contract, they should have put him out on loan overseas somewhere

Had he been charged at these points, to save me looking through all the posts.

 

[LeicesterMackem]

Really ? show me the texts he sent saying that ? the was no evidence apart from her word, the same word that said she gave him a bj, when she didn't, she admits to exagerating and her friends said she was liar.

There were texts read out in court where there was no doubt where he'd had his hands and what it felt like.

 

[Kauto Star]

How the hell would you suggest they go about said fans? 'Strikers' on here?

Fuck sake, they released a press statement to media, fans, Tom, Dick and Harry. If you are serious about a conference between fans and the board I am amazed.

Invite a limited number of supporter groups and let them hear the club's side. Let them then feedback back to us as supporters via a statement.

This trial by media is utter bollocks

 

[Keith S30S]

The charges Johnson faces?

No, the ones he pleaded guilty to.

 

[Deleted member 26022]

Think am still shocked by it all.

i think the majority of us are blacktop, and a little ashamed well, maybe feel a lot let down two, but that's just me