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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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safcforever said:
If he did have bonuses like feature bonuses, goal bonuses or assist bonuses then by suspending him we would be restricting his income. That is illeagal. So comparing it to a school teacher or carer is stupid
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So you don't know the detail of his contract then? Why bring 'lost bonuses' into it in the first place?
 

The Cabbage said:
Indeed. The most likely response from a right thinking individual would be that Johnson would be fired. Why would they risk that damage to his reputation prior to trial? The most likely outcome is surely that the club didn't know the full extent of this and that what occurred in the trial was the result of clever wording surely?
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That's my take on it. If the club had information he was guilty I really can't see them doing anything else but sack him. Which they did as soon as he changed his plea. There a multi million pound business and can't see them taking any action that jeopardises themselves, well apart from signing shit players year on year like. Think they'd have too much to lose and wouldn't do it.

And I keep coming back to where the information came from. Johnson's QC isn't going to drop his client in the shit imo, so fuck knows how the club were supposed to know he was guilty.
 
jsdftm04 said:
The lead investigator on the Adam Johnson case, Det Insp Aelfwynn Sampson from Durham Police, has told the BBC that there was a detailed meeting between herself and Sunderland chief executive Margaret Byrne on the day the player was arrested.

At the meeting on 2 March it was made known that Johnson had messaged and kissed the 15-year-old girl.

The senior officer has today said Johnson's victim has asked why was Adam Johnson ever allowed to play for the club again after that meeting.

So the investigating officer has said she told Byrne about the kissing and messages.....
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Wow:eek:
 
Pacific said:
the club will say nowt more and wait for the issue to blow over. Byrne is untouchable
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Is that what this is all about then? The removal of Maggie Byrne? - I'm sure there's an element of that - there always has been. I suppose the club will be dragged through the mud because of it. This will not end well.
 
jsdftm04 said:
The lead investigator on the Adam Johnson case, Det Insp Aelfwynn Sampson from Durham Police, has told the BBC that there was a detailed meeting between herself and Sunderland chief executive Margaret Byrne on the day the player was arrested.

At the meeting on 2 March it was made known that Johnson had messaged and kissed the 15-year-old girl.

The senior officer has today said Johnson's victim has asked why was Adam Johnson ever allowed to play for the club again after that meeting.

So the investigating officer has said she told Byrne about the kissing and messages.....
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Poor girl.

Anyone still defending Byrne?
 
jsdftm04 said:
The lead investigator on the Adam Johnson case, Det Insp Aelfwynn Sampson from Durham Police, has told the BBC that there was a detailed meeting between herself and Sunderland chief executive Margaret Byrne on the day the player was arrested.

At the meeting on 2 March it was made known that Johnson had messaged and kissed the 15-year-old girl.

The senior officer has today said Johnson's victim has asked why was Adam Johnson ever allowed to play for the club again after that meeting.

So the investigating officer has said she told Byrne about the kissing and messages.....
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So she knew he had messaged the girl and kissed her?

Did she know the nature of the kiss?

Did she know the content of the messages?
 
was disclosed in court that bryne met senior officer at AOL on arrest day but not what she seen, now this is comming from prescution/defense
 
sonson said:
I'm sure if the shoe was on the other foot we wouldn't make anything of it of course

Come off it man. The club employed a sex offender under what can be described as, at best, murky circumstances. No club should be given a free pass for that and where it any other club we'd have no hesitation in condemning them for it.
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Depends if you're the kind of knacker that posts on the oppositions football message boards or feels the need to phone radio stations about it. The club never knowingly employed a sex offender at all and found itself in a legal dichotomy, damned if they do and damned if they don't, wtf were they supposed to do? Trawl Facebook and Twitter for possible rumour and conjecture and take it into their own hands? The club has done nothing wrong, they were lied to and at the immediate point of admission of guilt acted accordingly.
 
theinediblebulk said:
That Johnson had stated he was pleading not guilty, and this was accepted by the club. It was the first day of his trail that he changed his plea and the club sacked him within 24 hours due to the change in his plea. If people want to believe that the club had information that proved him to be guilty before that day, that's up to them. I just don't see it as it was his defence team that provided said information. The same defence team that advised him to plead not guilty.

So the two parts of it for me are this; I don't believe his defence team would hand incriminating evidence to the club, and I think if the club did know of his guilt earlier and had cast iron evidence of that, they would have sacked him sooner.
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So, what is the harm in the club saying " the club received some documents none of which incriminated Adam Johnson" in their statement?

Literally 5 words mid-sentence on their statement would have put this to bed.
 
Rober33 said:
That would be a huge u-turn from the police if it was true:

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The inconsistency between the two is quite weird. Probably best to hold judgement given the difference between the two accounts.
 
Rober33 said:
So she knew he had messaged the girl and kissed her?

Did she know the nature of the kiss?

Did she know the content of the messages?
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Surely, at that point, the police couldn't even say if the case would proceed or not ..... if it didn't proceed the club would look as if they were perhaps acting incorrectly.
 
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