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GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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Said for a while now, Durham would beat this England ODI side comfortably.
No they wouldn't.
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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We'll agree to disagree. England have just been beaten by Bangladesh seam bowlers, not 1 spin bowler took a wicket. Embarrassing.
Well you can agree with yourself if you like, but I won't. Of Durham's XI only really Stokes or Onions would warrant a slot in England's side, and possibly Colly a few years ago. McLeod can't make a run for Scotland in this company.
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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Durham are the current English one day champions (a competition I doubt England would win), I am more than confident we would beat this shambolic England one day team, the very team ripped apart from a seam attack from Bangladesh!!!!
Champions of the competition the England team is picked from. Granted I think errors have been made with England but to say Durham would beat England is ludicrous and holds no substance whatsoever.
Callum McLeod a key part of Durham's order hasn't made a run. Mustard tried and failed at international level. Stoneman steady away and may warrant a go but nothing more. Breese nowhere near good enough (substitute in Buckley/Pringle if you like). Rushworth would get walloped. Wood maybe but again no guarantees. Muchall no chance. etc. etc. etc.
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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It's purely my opinion and you have your opinion. It's a team game, something Durham value themselves on, something England are miles off
I'd back Durham against England like.
It's a team game and Durham have a fanstastic team spirit - led by the only bloke to have ever won a trophy as England captain. COLLY would probably still do a better job than Morgan.
Yeah, cause England have consistently belted medium/fast bowlers all over in this World Cup haven't they.......
It's a team game and Durham have a fanstastic team spirit - led by the only bloke to have ever won a trophy as England captain. COLLY would probably still do a better job than Morgan.
Yeah, cause England have consistently belted medium/fast bowlers all over in this World Cup haven't they.......
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johnson
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Mate Colly didn't do that well as ODI captain though did he
lets not rewrite history here, and I am his biggest fan
we still had the same problems we do now when he was ODI captain, nothings changed
Your point about individuals has so blatantly higlighted England's problem. It isn't about individuals, it's about a good team and a good gameplan.
Ian Bell batted as an individual and he's scored a few 50's and probably improved his average in the tournament while doing absolutely fuckall for the team except scoring at a below par rate and making it tougher for the team to post a competitive total.
Ian Bell batted as an individual and he's scored a few 50's and probably improved his average in the tournament while doing absolutely fuckall for the team except scoring at a below par rate and making it tougher for the team to post a competitive total.
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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Which is why I would back Durham every time to beat England in a 50 over game. I'd back Yorkshire and Nottinghamshire to beat them as well.
How many trophies did he win as captain?
How many trophies has any other England captain won?
Looking at it from a stats point of view then - humour me with the facts and figures of Collingwood and then those of other captains before and after??
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I think we all agree that Colly is the greatest T20 captain England has ever had. The point here is that he didn't do a particularly great job as ODI skipper, and even jacked it in as it was too much like hard work.
He had about a 50% win percentage as ODI captain - only Vaughan and Cook of the modern era had better IIRC. Plus, I don't recall him jacking it in. Shortly after the World Cup win the ECB decided to shake things up and inserted establishment darling Stuart Broad as limited overs skipper.
Purely for political reasons it seems. Certainly not for cricketing reasons anyway.
Incorrect. He stood down as ODI captain
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T20 you may have a point though.
I stand corrected. What date was that btw?
Point still remains about him having a good overall record as captain though.
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Bungo Mackem
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I reckon Leicester would give England a game just now.
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