Ha'way Muchy man! Aggers might be a friend of the ECB but to say he's an awful commentator is insane. He's the voice of TMS, that itself automatically makes him class. I take it you've never played Brian Lara Cricket for the Play Station?!
Warners a cxnt but not walking is not cheating.
. Then you help em more by walking off on a tickle? Not likely.Warners a cxnt but not walking is not cheating.
Do bowlers turn round when they pick up a dodgy appeal and go " ah sorry umps, I was just getting excited he never hit it " ,or " actually this is bit embarrassing umps I could see all three stumps call him back" do the wickys go " nah forget it umps he was in his ground" ?
Do they shite
If all the dodgy " cheating"( chancing ? ) appealing stopped I might think about it , until then , " swings and roundabouts" doesn't begin to even it out. Not walking is equal chancing not cheating .
As long as you take the rough with the smooth and don't cry like a bitch when you get the howlers that is.
Beautiful. Then we had some ginger ale, congratulated our victors with bats under arm and got the jolly old steam train home.
I failed to see the simplicity? My post is about loving the simplicity. We all want simplicity. And what's wrong with ginger beer?You fail to see the simplicity, if you know your playing a bunch of cheating kernts and let the umpire know, then you may get the benefit of any doubt. If you are known as someone who will walk, the umpire may and usually does give you the benefit when you aren't sure. I play hard, I sledge, and I push the rules as much as anyone. I am embarrassed by bad appealing when its obviously not out, but claiming catches that don't carry and not walking for huge edges is simply cheating.
An example as a chap who is known to play hard and fair, batting well the batsman is not aware that the keeper has crept up to the stumps as the bowler is running in. Plays and misses a shot he wouldn't play when the keeper was known to be up and is given out by the umpire...the batsmen turns to the young lad keeping and says it's usually good form to advise the batsman you're moving up. 1st slip pipes up and says I told him to do it. As the batsman is walking off saying that was poor form, the opposing Captain recalls him.
I got 70 odd that game and got a tiny edge. The umpire gave not out, but I walked. Then they bat and two lads walk in a similar way after faint edges and we won. It had been a bit tense but by being nice and saying that was bad form I got a second chance to bat on and turned a heated nasty game into a hard and fair game.
Yes I'm aware that won't happen all the time, but that imo is how to play the game well! If you expect people to cheat you cheat. If people see honesty, most/all decent people will play the same way.
So no ginger beer that day and cricket and my team won.......I left in a Saab, don't do public transport
There's a breathless hush in the close tonight......You fail to see the simplicity, if you know your playing a bunch of cheating kernts and let the umpire know, then you may get the benefit of any doubt. If you are known as someone who will walk, the umpire may and usually does give you the benefit when you aren't sure. I play hard, I sledge, and I push the rules as much as anyone. I am embarrassed by bad appealing when its obviously not out, but claiming catches that don't carry and not walking for huge edges is simply cheating.
An example as a chap who is known to play hard and fair, batting well the batsman is not aware that the keeper has crept up to the stumps as the bowler is running in. Plays and misses a shot he wouldn't play when the keeper was known to be up and is given out by the umpire...the batsmen turns to the young lad keeping and says it's usually good form to advise the batsman you're moving up. 1st slip pipes up and says I told him to do it. As the batsman is walking off saying that was poor form, the opposing Captain recalls him.
I got 70 odd that game and got a tiny edge. The umpire gave not out, but I walked. Then they bat and two lads walk in a similar way after faint edges and we won. It had been a bit tense but by being nice and saying that was bad form I got a second chance to bat on and turned a heated nasty game into a hard and fair game.
Yes I'm aware that won't happen all the time, but that imo is how to play the game well! If you expect people to cheat you cheat. If people see honesty, most/all decent people will play the same way.
So no ginger beer that day and cricket and my team won.......I left in a Saab, don't do public transport
Simple , the umpire gives you out or not. It's all the rest of the schoolboy bullshit that's complicated
Ahhh....There's a breathless hush in the close tonight......
Simple , the umpire gives you out or not. It's all the rest of the schoolboy bullshit that's complicated
You fail to see the simplicity, if you know your playing a bunch of cheating kernts and let the umpire know, then you may get the benefit of any doubt. If you are known as someone who will walk, the umpire may and usually does give you the benefit when you aren't sure. I play hard, I sledge, and I push the rules as much as anyone. I am embarrassed by bad appealing when its obviously not out, but claiming catches that don't carry and not walking for huge edges is simply cheating.
An example as a chap who is known to play hard and fair, batting well the batsman is not aware that the keeper has crept up to the stumps as the bowler is running in. Plays and misses a shot he wouldn't play when the keeper was known to be up and is given out by the umpire...the batsmen turns to the young lad keeping and says it's usually good form to advise the batsman you're moving up. 1st slip pipes up and says I told him to do it. As the batsman is walking off saying that was poor form, the opposing Captain recalls him.
I got 70 odd that game and got a tiny edge. The umpire gave not out, but I walked. Then they bat and two lads walk in a similar way after faint edges and we won. It had been a bit tense but by being nice and saying that was bad form I got a second chance to bat on and turned a heated nasty game into a hard and fair game.
Yes I'm aware that won't happen all the time, but that imo is how to play the game well! If you expect people to cheat you cheat. If people see honesty, most/all decent people will play the same way.
So no ginger beer that day and cricket and my team won.......I left in a Saab, don't do public transport
A batsman is claiming nothing , he's not even being asked, you don't ask a batsman to leave, the umpire is asked to adjudicate by appeal as indeed he must be by law . If a bat walks without an upheld appeal to the umpire he is technically " retired " , not given out . The umpire decides in and out on every occasion. Just saying like
You know if you've cheated or not tho. Its just whether you can accept it/live with it or not.A batsman is claiming nothing , he's not even being asked, you don't ask a batsman to leave, the umpire is asked to adjudicate by appeal as indeed he must be by law . If a bat walks without an upheld appeal to the umpire he is technically " retired " , not given out . The umpire decides in and out on every occasion. Just saying like
To each his own mate . Defending your wicket by all means technically within the laws is one thing, I can put up with that for its bloody minded commitment, as I said I would expect such a man to also walk off without complaint when he gets the bad one. Falsely claiming a catch is another thing , the umpire directly asks the fielder whether it carried, if he lies he's cheated.
