Discussion in 'Pure Football' started by stephen cartwright, Jun 21, 2010.
hard to see why carrick is there, warnock is there to cover for cole
Bit stupid that he has only taken one right back.
Carrick to cover Barry
barry is capable of dropping to left back, if required, carrick would then step into the midfield holding role, if 5 men were selected in midfield
and IMHO he would still have played left back before warnock.
So I'm guessing he'll have played a key role in the USA game
agreed kev. keep it too ourselves though. they know not what they do, disagreeing
that would explain why carrick started against the usa when barry was out then............oh wait
milner was also used in a friendly, in that position, iirc.
warnock will not see one second on the pitch in this world cup. simple as that.
So Capello should not have picked Warnock in the squad because you think he would of used somebody else there if A.Cole got injured
Bearing in mind Capello picked the squad and you only think he would have played somebody else there if Cole gets injured
we have been over this rob
my gripe is that warnock is there after playing 2 mins in two years of int football. is that enough for him to be selected? why was he not played for 45 mins each with baines, during the warm up games? is warnock even fit? who knows, he has not played since may.
and imo he will not play 1 second of this world cup.
carragher, barry would be put it that position before warnock imo.
it really is that basic and simple
So because you think Carregher and Barry would have been played in left back if Cole got injured Capello should not have took cover for left back wether in be Warnock or somebody else
personally, i would have tried someone such as warnock, as i would have had doubts, with only seeing him for 2 mins in a friendly.
its the principal of that, which didnt apply to nigh on every other member of the squad.
i would have taken an extra forward and foresaken a left back cover, as i had barry and carragher in the squad, who are adaptable players, that have shown ability to perform at international level.
the selection of warnock resembles svens selection of walcott, which he did not see 1 second of action either, and that was after owen crippled himself
milner is another who has shown an ability to adapt position and he could have dropped into right back, with barry at left, with carrick, sitting in a 5 man midfield
Fair enough, I can see where you are coming form and respect your opinion but its what Capello thinks that counts.
If Cole was to get injured and he does not play Warnock it would be a wasted selection by Capello but unless Cole gets injured we will never find out
Just cant see how you can call it a wasted selection because he might not play, I am guessing there have been 100's of players picked in squads in the world cup and Euros who have not played a minute. Its just a matter of the positions they are covering not getting an injury
you have been perfectly fair in your points, its just something that we agree to disagree on.
i would have had another striker in the squad, as i am totally convinced bent would have scored a goal, even if used for 20 mins towards the end.
we shall see but capello has a lot to answer if the worst happens tomorrow.
cant believe this is still going from yesterday as i was passing time being in an argumentative mood
I said at the time that the drop off from Cole to Bridge that it made total sense to have him as back up. Even Gibbs was progressing to the point where it would have been sensible pick but the srop off from Cole to either Warnock or Baines was so big that I honestly don't think
a) it's worth it within the squad structure of 8-8-4 - may as well gamble and take someone who can do something different
b) capello would have trusted either warnock or baines (this is borne out when he picked King and Carragher over Upson, even though he'd played the majority of the qualifiers).
Oops - b should say 'wouldn't have trusted'
not one second
Because Cole stayed 100% fit. No other left back we might have taken, regardless of their experience or quality, would have played 1 minute either.
would you agree, that when i said he would not be on the pitch for one second, i was right?
that is the basic fact, irrespective of owt else. should have taken 6 forwards like argentina, who are managed by the supposed clueless maradona
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