spot on piece by chris young from todays echo sums it all up

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GOING down. Sack the manager. New recruits signed on the cheap. Best players sold. Lightweight central midfield.




All statements that have been uttered from the lips of Sunderland fans after five days which have prompted a succession of doom prophecies.

But turn the clock back to the start of 2013 and such damning indictments would be equally applicable to an Aston Villa side plummeting towards the Championship.

By the end of January, Villa had taken just 20 points from 24 Premier League outings and nestled precariously above basement boys QPR in the relegation zone.

Look what happened next though.

Villa survived with a flourish – their 6-1 rout of Paolo Di Canio’s side in April was arguably one of the best opposition performances of the season against Sunderland, particularly given the stakes on the encounter.

And now Villa look a club transformed.

Suddenly, Paul Lambert can boast a bright and ambitious young side, with pace, power and players battle-hardened by experiencing the Premier League dogfight.

Bleating on about Sunderland “needing time” to form some harmony after a summer of such wholesale ins and outs never generates much sympathy.

Supporters need to see signs of progress on the pitch – even if they don’t accompany results – and there have been precious few of those over the season’s opening fortnight.

But last season, Villa indeed showed the benefits of taking a deep breath and resisting the temptation to petulantly jump up and down on the panic button.

They faced a situation just as tumultuous as Sunderland’s too.

The prize assets of Stewart Downing and Ashley Young had departed, the central midfield options of Fabian Delph, Ashley Westwood and Stephen Ireland looked susceptible, while there was a hangover from the previous season’s narrow escape.

The new incumbent of the dug-out, Lambert, boasted dramatic ideas for changing the team’s style into a far more attractive approach.

But it took months to overcome those obstacles and for the training ground work to come to fruition.

Equally, it needed the huge contribution of 19-goal Christian Benteke. Di Canio will need something similar from Jozy Altidore or Steven Fletcher, if his own “revolution” is to bear fruit.

Villa’s successful transformation won’t have gone unnoticed by Ellis Short.

The Black Cats owner is a close confidante of his opposite number at Villa and fellow American Randy Lerner, and both have spent the past couple of years attempting to put the Premier League’s finances back in order.

Lerner has made a decisive attempt to cut Villa’s cloth after the vast indulgence of the Martin O’Neill era.

Likewise, Short spearheaded the Premier League’s self-imposed cap on plundering the new television deal on wages.

Balancing the books has to be the way forward after football’s boom or bust era.

Given Sunderland’s debts and the limits of Financial Fair Play, the club have needed to take dramatic steps on the balance sheet.

Many supporters have questioned why the likes of Simon Mignolet and Stephane Sessegnon have been sold and replaced with cheaper alternatives, when Sunderland’s Premier League peers seem determined to continue spending with reckless abandon.

It’s a fair point, particularly with Uefa offering such flimsy answers on the sanctions facing clubs if they ignore the financial restrictions.

But Sunderland can only put their own shop in order and ensure the long-term future of the club is not in jeopardy.

Sunderland’s overall transfer blueprint of buying promising young players, developing them and selling them on for a profit is a model which supporters seemed to appreciate during the summer too.

Throw in a couple of eye-catching signings, in Altidore and Emanuele Giaccherini, and there was a genuine enthusiasm for the new direction this season.

Two things have conspired to banish that enthusiasm.

Firstly, there has been little encouragement on the field and few signs of a dramatic change from under O’Neill.

Even when Villa were struggling last season, they still won at Anfield, the Stadium of Light and the Etihad (albeit in the Capital One Cup).

Those fragments give supporters belief to keep the faith, even if the majority of results are indifferent.

And the second element of woe on Wearside has been the nature of their last-gasp recruits in the window.

The loan signings of Ki Sung-Yeung and Fabio Borini, plus a one-year deal for Andrea Dossena, have smacked of Sunderland scouring around for cut-price options, rather than adhering to the transfer model envisaged earlier in the summer.

But Sunderland have set out their stall.

They have established an all-Italian backroom managerial team and a dramatically re-configured squad.

There is no going back now.

Like Villa though, there may be bleak days ahead before Sunderland embrace the new direction.

The question is whether they can do that quickly enough.
 


Load of utter shite. Villa would have finished below us if they hadn't walloped us 6-1 and would have been relegated if they hadn't took 6 points of us. They weren't a good team last season and they aren't this season......3 games played, 1 win and 2 defeats. It bears no relationship whatsoever to what is happening here and is a completely spurious argument that having blind faith will reap it's rewards......they could so easily have been relegated last season.....the fact that they met us when they did probably saved their bacon.
 
Load of utter shite. Villa would have finished below us if they hadn't walloped us 6-1 and would have been relegated if they hadn't took 6 points of us. They weren't a good team last season and they aren't this season......3 games played, 1 win and 2 defeats. It bears no relationship whatsoever to what is happening here and is a completely spurious argument that having blind faith will reap it's rewards......they could so easily have been relegated last season.....the fact that they met us when they did probably saved their bacon.

You need to sort out the chip on your shoulder.
 
What is it with NE football writers and these short bullet sentence paragraphs. Did Chris copy the Lee Ryder style or vice versa?
 
Fair enough about reducing the debts but to fall in line with the fair play rules? Don't see any of the UBS that actually play in Europe reining it in. Well, maybe man u
 
Maybe all the negative doom predictors is the online army of fans. The furious keyboard warriors! :D

Well its time to get behind the team, cheer them on and be the 12th man all season long!
Always look at the bright side of life and be a bit positive ffs... This site can be so depressing with all the negative people posting here.
 
Load of utter shite. Villa would have finished below us if they hadn't walloped us 6-1 and would have been relegated if they hadn't took 6 points of us. They weren't a good team last season and they aren't this season......3 games played, 1 win and 2 defeats. It bears no relationship whatsoever to what is happening here and is a completely spurious argument that having blind faith will reap it's rewards......they could so easily have been relegated last season.....the fact that they met us when they did probably saved their bacon.

Spot on - couldn't agree more and can see no evidence of a chip on the shoulder.
 
Load of utter shite. Villa would have finished below us if they hadn't walloped us 6-1 and would have been relegated if they hadn't took 6 points of us. They weren't a good team last season and they aren't this season......3 games played, 1 win and 2 defeats. It bears no relationship whatsoever to what is happening here and is a completely spurious argument that having blind faith will reap it's rewards......they could so easily have been relegated last season.....the fact that they met us when they did probably saved their bacon.

They would have been relegated if they got 6 points less. This is true. We would have been relegated if we took 4 points less. That's the weird thing about the league, if you have lower points than all but 2 of the league, you'll go down.

The article has it spot on. The Villa fans didn't cry, they didn't get relegated and they look much better for that stability.
 
Load of utter shite. Villa would have finished below us if they hadn't walloped us 6-1 and would have been relegated if they hadn't took 6 points of us. They weren't a good team last season and they aren't this season......3 games played, 1 win and 2 defeats. It bears no relationship whatsoever to what is happening here and is a completely spurious argument that having blind faith will reap it's rewards......they could so easily have been relegated last season.....the fact that they met us when they did probably saved their bacon.

But they did

Currently, I would take 15th this season

The similarities to whats happening here are that Lambert tried to replace the older highly paid squad members (ironically some left over by MON) with younger hungrier players whilst bringing down the wage bill and balancing the books - Sound familiar?

Took them a while to gel but they looked a much better side in the second half of the season and this season, lets not forget the played 3, lost 2 you quoted was Arsenal, Liverpool (playeed 3, won 3) & Chelsea (undefeated)
 
They would have been relegated if they got 6 points less. This is true. We would have been relegated if we took 4 points less. That's the weird thing about the league, if you have lower points than all but 2 of the league, you'll go down.

The article has it spot on. The Villa fans didn't cry, they didn't get relegated and they look much better for that stability.


Fair comment but do they really look much better....we are only 3 games in and they've lost 2 of them. It could also be argued that they went out of their way to keep hold of their best players which was in complete contrast to what we did.
 
Villa stayed up probably because the fixture list conspired to assist them by giving them SAFC at home at the perfect time. Just as it saved our bacon by giving us QPR at the perfect time, had we be paired with any other team for our last away fixture i believe we would have lost and been relegated.
Buy young, cultivate and sell at a profit is also apparantly the strategy at Newcastle. Hardly been a roaring success thus far.
 
What is it with NE football writers and these short bullet sentence paragraphs. Did Chris copy the Lee Ryder style or vice versa?

Mr Young is supposed to be a professional but I think the structure of his piece is poor. I am not a professional however starting any sentence with "But" was always accepted as poor when I was at school. While it is acceptable to use such conjunctions to start a sentence you should still use them carefully and efficiently.

As for the content - as stated before the last 2 lines is all that is needed.
 
Fair comment but do they really look much better....we are only 3 games in and they've lost 2 of them. It could also be argued that they went out of their way to keep hold of their best players which was in complete contrast to what we did.

Yes they do. Have you seen them this season? They beat Arsenal away with a brilliant performance. The other two performances have been much improved too and were unlucky in particular at Chelsea to leave empty handed. The performance deserved a draw. Only Liverpool have put in a superior performance to them so far, and even then it was a proper hard fought 1-0 to the scousers (with Villa having far more chances than them.)
 
But they did

Currently, I would take 15th this season

The similarities to whats happening here are that Lambert tried to replace the older highly paid squad members (ironically some left over by MON) with younger hungrier players whilst bringing down the wage bill and balancing the books - Sound familiar?

Took them a while to gel but they looked a much better side in the second half of the season and this season, lets not forget the played 3, lost 2 you quoted was Arsenal, Liverpool (playeed 3, won 3) & Chelsea (undefeated)


Can't blame O'Neill for saddling us with older highly paid players......our two best players are his signings and only Cuellar remains on the wage bill.

Defeats are defeats....doesn't matter whether it's a top team or whether it's a close result....they have lost 2 of their 3 games.
 
Villa stayed up probably because the fixture list conspired to assist them by giving them SAFC at home at the perfect time. Just as it saved our bacon by giving us QPR at the perfect time, had we be paired with any other team for our last away fixture i believe we would have lost and been relegated.
Buy young, cultivate and sell at a profit is also apparantly the strategy at Newcastle. Hardly been a roaring success thus far.

Villa stayed up because they finished 5 points off the relegation zone.[DOUBLEPOST=1378382721][/DOUBLEPOST]
Can't blame O'Neill for saddling us with older highly paid players......our two best players are his signings and only Cuellar remains on the wage bill.

Defeats are defeats....doesn't matter whether it's a top team or whether it's a close result....they have lost 2 of their 3 games.

They look much better. Unless you're idea of being stronger is beating everyone, and if so you're genuinely living in cloud cuckoo land.
 
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