Im 18 years old, been a season ticket holder for around 11 years but i think my earliest derby where i sort of knew what was going on was the 1-4 at the SOL where shearer went off injured. Anyway, the last 3/4 derbys i've really knew what people meant when they start thinking about it weeks in advance and how much it actually means. But i've learned something, (about the derbys i've been at or watched on the box) no matter what my expectations for the derby game are, we seem to constantly bottle it :roll: The one exception being the 2-1 under keano. The last 3 especially, we went into the last 3 and i genuinely thought, no bias whatsoever, that we would do them over. I dont think i'm ever going to be optimistic about a derby again in my life, no matter what the circumstances of it.