Discussion in 'Pure Football' started by toosb, Mar 11, 2011.
I largely agree with your serious points. But Quinn doesn't think the crowd argument is trivial.
Are you yourself objective in relation to the bookflogger?
Absolutely. I don't agree with MBH on everything by any means.
Another sly dig at MBH's books I see.
Jealousy rears its ugly head again
It isn't trivial. I don't think he should have said 'despise' but for people to instantly forget all the good and get the hump big time is embarrassing.
Quinn's point and motive are spot on, his method could have been better.
Surely he can be forgiven for that?
All of this because of one word.
Actually I do forgive him. And I actually suspect he was been leaned on at the time.
But its fair to appraise his performance, just as it is the players.
Can one catch up with this radiophonic treat on the world wide web anywhere?
The problem is that football clubs rarely if ever listen to their fans. Is football the only business that takes its customers for granted. I mean would Tesco blame shoppers for spending their money at Morrisons or would they look at themselves and how they could do more to attract customers?
Can people not disagree with the bloke and still think he's the best thing to happen to Sunderland?
I've not heard MBH or the radio or paid much attention to post but I've not seen anyone bearing a grudge after this. And that includes me.
Can you not understand that?
No one, least of all me has forgotten the good he has done for the club. That doesnt mean that he doesnt make mistakes and shouldnt be reminded of them in a constructive manner.
He is the Chairman of SAFC and has to act accordingly. Indicating that you "despise" people is an horrendous PR mistake to make for a person in his position.
Comments construed as being against Quinn dont go down well, I'm fully aware of that, but it doesnt invalidate them and if the club dont know they are making mistakes then they wont be able to rectify them.
they dont listen to their fans and IMHO the fans groups we have are a token gesture. If the club arent going to speak with them and meet with them in a meaningful way then they should disband them because the fans are being duped.
I do know that Ellis short turned up at one of the BLC meetings because I know the lad from the CLS Branch who was there. We need more of that type of activity not less.
The Tesco example is relevant.
The fans are the club and the club should be run for their benefit before anyone else.
jolly good thanks
I think the word support is misused in this context.
They are lapsed supporters at best.
Paddy McDee crackin on a bit!
you make some good points there, but for me Quinny is still the best we could have in his position, so try not to forget the good he has done for SAFC when arguing about him- people who sound like they are slagging the bloke off deserve very short shrift from SAFC fans imo as I fucking love the bloke and what he is trying to achieve, but I do agree that much though we love him, he needs to be accountable nonetheless and so the few negative things at the club do need to be highlighted and discussed.
Agree they have to hear the fans opinions, but after that they have to do what they think is right to progress the club even if it is unpopular with the fans at the time.
If some had their way we'd still be stuck in Roker in front of 20K or less, probably a few divisions lower too.
Nonsense, I don't have any form with MBH.
I posted a memory of a match I attended at Leeds.
He said I was a liar.
I dispute this and he repeated his accusation.
Other people confirmed that what I'd said was true.
MBH didn't have the guts/courtesy to apologise.
In my view that makes him a gutless hypicrite but certainly not the reason I despise his pompous and attention seeking pontificating regarding the club.
You're entirely incorrect there.
Does anyone fancy a good bumming? Anyone?
Aye, all right then
gan on me as well please
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