Clubs telling untruths about transfer fees

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I was having a couple of drinks last night with a reasonably high profile agent and he was discussing the current trend of transfers to have 'undisclosed fees' and the subsequent spinning to the media of 'made up' fees. He was also talking about how fees are getting more complicated with increasingly flaky add ons and more complex release clauses. Some examples we discussed were McCormick, Suarez, Debuchy, Valencia and Cabaye.

McCormack deal to Fulham was 2 x £3m payments and add ons for promotion (£2m) and some for appearances. The new Leeds owner has briefed the press it was £11m to appease the Leeds fans!

Suarez - because of last summer - had a legally watertight release clause in his new contract. For a non British club the release clause was euros 80m (this was pretty much common knowledge amongst the agent community) - at current exchange rate £63.4m. The club have spun to friendly Liverpool based journalists the price was £75m - with one muppet saying the price would of been £120m to Real Madrid if it was not for the biting incident. The journo claimed there would of been a bidding war? Why would the clubs pay more when there is an actual release clause - any bidding war would be about wages.

The Mags deal with Arsenal for Debuchey is apprently £6.5m plus a million of add ons. The mags were spinning £12m in the press. They have previous for this in the Cabeye deal when they tried to spin the fee was £25m (but PSG who do not want to be seen as 'mugs' came out and flatly contradicted them) - it was less than euros 20m (under £17m at current exchange rates).

The most ridiculous is the Valencia to West Ham deal. Apparently the Mexican club authorised his agents to hawk him around Europe at $12m (appromimately £7.75m). Now its being briefed he is being signed for £15- 16m.

This is all a bit of a grand conspiracy with clubs, agents, the press, sky all 'bigging up' the signings of in some cases some quite ordinary players.

It appears transfer fees are now as believable as DFS furniture sale discounts.

BTW this agent told me McCormack was off to Fulham (and posted on here) long before it was in the papers
 


I was having a couple of drinks last night with a reasonably high profile agent and he was discussing the current trend of transfers to have 'undisclosed fees' and the subsequent spinning to the media of 'made up' fees. He was also talking about how fees are getting more complicated with increasingly flaky add ons and more complex release clauses. Some examples we discussed were McCormick, Suarez, Debuchy, Valencia and Cabaye.

McCormack deal to Fulham was 2 x £3m payments and add ons for promotion (£2m) and some for appearances. The new Leeds owner has briefed the press it was £11m to appease the Leeds fans!

Suarez - because of last summer - had a legally watertight release clause in his new contract. For a non British club the release clause was euros 80m (this was pretty much common knowledge amongst the agent community) - at current exchange rate £63.4m. The club have spun to friendly Liverpool based journalists the price was £75m - with one muppet saying the price would of been £120m to Real Madrid if it was not for the biting incident. The journo claimed there would of been a bidding war? Why would the clubs pay more when there is an actual release clause - any bidding war would be about wages.

The Mags deal with Arsenal for Debuchey is apprently £6.5m plus a million of add ons. The mags were spinning £12m in the press. They have previous for this in the Cabeye deal when they tried to spin the fee was £25m (but PSG who do not want to be seen as 'mugs' came out and flatly contradicted them) - it was less than euros 20m (under £17m at current exchange rates).

The most ridiculous is the Valencia to West Ham deal. Apparently the Mexican club authorised his agents to hawk him around Europe at $12m (appromimately £7.75m). Now its being briefed he is being signed for £15- 16m.

This is all a bit of a grand conspiracy with clubs, agents, the press, sky all 'bigging up' the signings of in some cases some quite ordinary players.

It appears transfer fees are now as believable as DFS furniture sale discounts.

BTW this agent told me McCormack was off to Fulham (and posted on here) long before it was in the papers
 
I was having a couple of drinks last night with a reasonably high profile agent and he was discussing the current trend of transfers to have 'undisclosed fees' and the subsequent spinning to the media of 'made up' fees. He was also talking about how fees are getting more complicated with increasingly flaky add ons and more complex release clauses. Some examples we discussed were McCormick, Suarez, Debuchy, Valencia and Cabaye.

McCormack deal to Fulham was 2 x £3m payments and add ons for promotion (£2m) and some for appearances. The new Leeds owner has briefed the press it was £11m to appease the Leeds fans!

Suarez - because of last summer - had a legally watertight release clause in his new contract. For a non British club the release clause was euros 80m (this was pretty much common knowledge amongst the agent community) - at current exchange rate £63.4m. The club have spun to friendly Liverpool based journalists the price was £75m - with one muppet saying the price would of been £120m to Real Madrid if it was not for the biting incident. The journo claimed there would of been a bidding war? Why would the clubs pay more when there is an actual release clause - any bidding war would be about wages.

The Mags deal with Arsenal for Debuchey is apprently £6.5m plus a million of add ons. The mags were spinning £12m in the press. They have previous for this in the Cabeye deal when they tried to spin the fee was £25m (but PSG who do not want to be seen as 'mugs' came out and flatly contradicted them) - it was less than euros 20m (under £17m at current exchange rates).

The most ridiculous is the Valencia to West Ham deal. Apparently the Mexican club authorised his agents to hawk him around Europe at $12m (appromimately £7.75m). Now its being briefed he is being signed for £15- 16m.

This is all a bit of a grand conspiracy with clubs, agents, the press, sky all 'bigging up' the signings of in some cases some quite ordinary players.

It appears transfer fees are now as believable as DFS furniture sale discounts.

BTW this agent told me McCormack was off to Fulham (and posted on here) long before it was in the papers

Even at 6m, McCormack is still overpriced by 5m
 
I was having a couple of drinks last night with a reasonably high profile agent and he was discussing the current trend of transfers to have 'undisclosed fees' and the subsequent spinning to the media of 'made up' fees. He was also talking about how fees are getting more complicated with increasingly flaky add ons and more complex release clauses. Some examples we discussed were McCormick, Suarez, Debuchy, Valencia and Cabaye.

McCormack deal to Fulham was 2 x £3m payments and add ons for promotion (£2m) and some for appearances. The new Leeds owner has briefed the press it was £11m to appease the Leeds fans!

Suarez - because of last summer - had a legally watertight release clause in his new contract. For a non British club the release clause was euros 80m (this was pretty much common knowledge amongst the agent community) - at current exchange rate £63.4m. The club have spun to friendly Liverpool based journalists the price was £75m - with one muppet saying the price would of been £120m to Real Madrid if it was not for the biting incident. The journo claimed there would of been a bidding war? Why would the clubs pay more when there is an actual release clause - any bidding war would be about wages.

The Mags deal with Arsenal for Debuchey is apprently £6.5m plus a million of add ons. The mags were spinning £12m in the press. They have previous for this in the Cabeye deal when they tried to spin the fee was £25m (but PSG who do not want to be seen as 'mugs' came out and flatly contradicted them) - it was less than euros 20m (under £17m at current exchange rates).

The most ridiculous is the Valencia to West Ham deal. Apparently the Mexican club authorised his agents to hawk him around Europe at $12m (appromimately £7.75m). Now its being briefed he is being signed for £15- 16m.

This is all a bit of a grand conspiracy with clubs, agents, the press, sky all 'bigging up' the signings of in some cases some quite ordinary players.

It appears transfer fees are now as believable as DFS furniture sale discounts.

BTW this agent told me McCormack was off to Fulham (and posted on here) long before it was in the papers
Did this agent tell you anyone was heading our way, dodgy price or not?
 
This has happened for years. Not sure why it matters in the slightest.
bloats the market by giving untrue figures, Leeds saying they got £11million for McCormack, so they go in for an Everton Fringe player, Everton want £5 million for him as leed have cash, it inflates the market, makes players overpriced and leaves clubs like us incapable of paying the prices quoted
 
I've been trying to tell people on here for years now that this is what happened with the Fletcher deal. No one wants to believe me though.


We paid £7 mill rising to 10 with add-ons. Moxey at Wolves needed to appease his fans and so says we paid way more.
 
I've been trying to tell people on here for years now that this is what happened with the Fletcher deal. No one wants to believe me though.


We paid £7 mill rising to 10 with add-ons. Moxey at Wolves needed to appease his fans and so says we paid way more.

How do you know this? Just curious.
 
bloats the market by giving untrue figures, Leeds saying they got £11million for McCormack, so they go in for an Everton Fringe player, Everton want £5 million for him as leed have cash, it inflates the market, makes players overpriced and leaves clubs like us incapable of paying the prices quoted
If this is as widespread as is made out then the clubs would be pretty stupid to rely on figures in the press when doing their own business.
 
I was having a couple of drinks last night with a reasonably high profile agent and he was discussing the current trend of transfers to have 'undisclosed fees' and the subsequent spinning to the media of 'made up' fees. He was also talking about how fees are getting more complicated with increasingly flaky add ons and more complex release clauses. Some examples we discussed were McCormick, Suarez, Debuchy, Valencia and Cabaye.

McCormack deal to Fulham was 2 x £3m payments and add ons for promotion (£2m) and some for appearances. The new Leeds owner has briefed the press it was £11m to appease the Leeds fans!

Suarez - because of last summer - had a legally watertight release clause in his new contract. For a non British club the release clause was euros 80m (this was pretty much common knowledge amongst the agent community) - at current exchange rate £63.4m. The club have spun to friendly Liverpool based journalists the price was £75m - with one muppet saying the price would of been £120m to Real Madrid if it was not for the biting incident. The journo claimed there would of been a bidding war? Why would the clubs pay more when there is an actual release clause - any bidding war would be about wages.

The Mags deal with Arsenal for Debuchey is apprently £6.5m plus a million of add ons. The mags were spinning £12m in the press. They have previous for this in the Cabeye deal when they tried to spin the fee was £25m (but PSG who do not want to be seen as 'mugs' came out and flatly contradicted them) - it was less than euros 20m (under £17m at current exchange rates).

The most ridiculous is the Valencia to West Ham deal. Apparently the Mexican club authorised his agents to hawk him around Europe at $12m (appromimately £7.75m). Now its being briefed he is being signed for £15- 16m.

This is all a bit of a grand conspiracy with clubs, agents, the press, sky all 'bigging up' the signings of in some cases some quite ordinary players.

It appears transfer fees are now as believable as DFS furniture sale discounts.

BTW this agent told me McCormack was off to Fulham (and posted on here) long before it was in the papers
Cheers mate, good fuel for me hate batteries
 
I was having a couple of drinks last night with a reasonably high profile agent and he was discussing the current trend of transfers to have 'undisclosed fees' and the subsequent spinning to the media of 'made up' fees. He was also talking about how fees are getting more complicated with increasingly flaky add ons and more complex release clauses. Some examples we discussed were McCormick, Suarez, Debuchy, Valencia and Cabaye.

McCormack deal to Fulham was 2 x £3m payments and add ons for promotion (£2m) and some for appearances. The new Leeds owner has briefed the press it was £11m to appease the Leeds fans!

Suarez - because of last summer - had a legally watertight release clause in his new contract. For a non British club the release clause was euros 80m (this was pretty much common knowledge amongst the agent community) - at current exchange rate £63.4m. The club have spun to friendly Liverpool based journalists the price was £75m - with one muppet saying the price would of been £120m to Real Madrid if it was not for the biting incident. The journo claimed there would of been a bidding war? Why would the clubs pay more when there is an actual release clause - any bidding war would be about wages.

The Mags deal with Arsenal for Debuchey is apprently £6.5m plus a million of add ons. The mags were spinning £12m in the press. They have previous for this in the Cabeye deal when they tried to spin the fee was £25m (but PSG who do not want to be seen as 'mugs' came out and flatly contradicted them) - it was less than euros 20m (under £17m at current exchange rates).

The most ridiculous is the Valencia to West Ham deal. Apparently the Mexican club authorised his agents to hawk him around Europe at $12m (appromimately £7.75m). Now its being briefed he is being signed for £15- 16m.

This is all a bit of a grand conspiracy with clubs, agents, the press, sky all 'bigging up' the signings of in some cases some quite ordinary players.

It appears transfer fees are now as believable as DFS furniture sale discounts.

BTW this agent told me McCormack was off to Fulham (and posted on here) long before it was in the papers

The Fulham thing is 100% correct. Not once have they quoted the fee. My Fulham mates were all laughing at the hysteria in the press when Leeds came out with the figure because their club had said it was an initial down payment plus a load of add ons, not all guaranteed.
 
VAT will be payable so HMRC will be monitoring all deals
 
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