I've been thinking that tonight. After all, Stoke scored three times from balls swung over into the 6 yard box. That should be a test of the centre halves - and they failed today. So - have we been fooling ourselves a bit (myself included) about how much Bramble is 'the signing of the season', and Mensah is 'the rock'? They're very good on the deck - but are they as good in the air?