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    Old 16th June 2012, 09:38 PM   #1
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    Default Are holland out?

    I'm struggling with the rules.
    So it's not on goal difference, but if 2 teams have the Same points it's how they got on when they played, so if holland win, they and Denmark have 3 points, but Denmark beat holland so they are thru with Germany?
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    Old 16th June 2012, 09:41 PM   #2
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    I'm struggling with the rules.
    So it's not on goal difference, but if 2 teams have the Same points it's how they got on when they played, so if holland win, they and Denmark have 3 points, but Denmark beat holland so they are thru with Germany?
    Yep
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    Old 16th June 2012, 09:42 PM   #3
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    I'm struggling with the rules.
    So it's not on goal difference, but if 2 teams have the Same points it's how they got on when they played, so if holland win, they and Denmark have 3 points, but Denmark beat holland so they are thru with Germany?
    If Germany win then Holland go through with a 2 goal winning margin (I think)
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    Old 16th June 2012, 09:43 PM   #4
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    Surely based on the rules out there tonight they must be out
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    Old 16th June 2012, 09:43 PM   #5
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    Default Re: Are holland out?

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    If Germany win then Holland go through with a 2 goal winning margin (I think)
    This

    If Holland beat Portugal, Portugal haven beaten Denmark and Denmark have beaten Holland, so it's about goal diff
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    Old 16th June 2012, 09:44 PM   #6
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    Default Re: Are holland out?

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    I'm struggling with the rules.
    So it's not on goal difference, but if 2 teams have the Same points it's how they got on when they played, so if holland win, they and Denmark have 3 points, but Denmark beat holland so they are thru with Germany?
    Problem with that is that Portugal would also have 3 points
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    Old 16th June 2012, 09:44 PM   #7
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    Surely based on the rules out there tonight they must be out
    It goes on head to head. But if more than 1 team is in the same points is it not goal difference?

    How could you have worked it tonight? Greece beat Russia, but Russia beat Czechs, and the czechs beat greece
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    Old 16th June 2012, 09:46 PM   #8
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    Sorting rules:

    Head to head
    Goal difference
    Goals scored.

    If Germany beat Denmark, and Netherland beat Portugal all the latter 3 sit on three points. Demark beat Netherlands, who beat Portugal, who beat Denmark. No way to sort my head to head, so would go to goal difference. Currently Portugal and Denmark sit on a GD of 0, and Netherland -2. 1-0 defeat for Denmark and 1-0 win for Netherland would have them all on -1, so would go to goals scored.

    In those final 1-0 scenarios, Denmark and Portugal finish with 3 goals each, and Netherland finish on 2 goals. Netherlands out. Then either flip a coin for Portugal and Denmark, or Portugal go through since they beat Denmark.

    Basically, if Germany win and Netherlands win by 2 or more goals, the Germans and Dutch will qualify. Dutch NEED to win. Denmark need at least a point, or a win if Netherlands don't beat Portugal.
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    Old 16th June 2012, 09:46 PM   #9
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    Default Re: Are holland out?

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    It goes on head to head. But if more than 1 team is in the same points is it not goal difference?

    How could you have worked it tonight? Greece beat Russia, but Russia beat Czechs, and the czechs beat greece
    Not so easy

    They basically recalculate a three team league based on the results of games between the 3 tied teams ( again, I think ) - results against the Germans are discounted
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    Old 16th June 2012, 11:57 PM   #10
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    Not so easy

    They basically recalculate a three team league based on the results of games between the 3 tied teams ( again, I think ) - results against the Germans are discounted
    This I think.

    One goal win but scoring two goals and the Dutch are through. ( provided Germans win)

    Why the fuck they have made it this complicated I dont know. Fucking idiots running our game at every level.
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