May voting - Dereliction, Neglect, or Decay - Page 8

UaeExile · 9th June 2012, 07:30 PM

I'm off to bed. This thread is getting silly and is in danger of getting snipped

ayesane · 9th June 2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by peachbum

OY. I may have liked your photograph, but childish playground namecalling isn't needed. There is not a lot of love lost between Tired Eyes and myself, but he does call things as he sees them. We are all entitled to our opinions and disagreements are fine but the last post is just unnecessary.

cheeky. But I like it.

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Originally Posted by UaeExile

I'm off to bed. This thread is getting silly and is in danger of getting snipped

Steeeeds fault.

TiredEyes · 9th June 2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ayesane

back to fruit loop.. your perception is flawed anyway marra.

... erm yeah, ok then

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Originally Posted by sketchy

Out of curiiosity what are your reasons for not liking large amounts of PP?

Also it was me who said that not sean.

For me it's about the skill of the shot, it's certainly not about how good you are at post production.
It becomes make believe when you boost colours that weren't there or silver B&W shots, that isn't the shot that was in front of the lens that you snapped is it, there was one shot in this competition a while ago that was beautiful, a sunrise/sunset (great colours) behind a cloud at the coast, I voted for it, it was a great shot, then he showed you the shot before post production and it wasn't anything like what I voted for, I felt violated

it seemed like cheating to me, I think it's almost cheating but it's not against any rules here, so I decided I'd try to take PP into consideration when voting.

So you did, apologies.

sketchy · 9th June 2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by peachbum

OY. I may have liked your photograph, but childish playground namecalling isn't needed. There is not a lot of love lost between Tired Eyes and myself, but he does call things as he sees them. We are all entitled to our opinions and disagreements are fine but the last post is just unnecessary.

It was less in name calling, more their view (which is entitled) being very different to the norm, but without giving reasoning for their views

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Originally Posted by TiredEyes

... erm yeah, ok then

For me it's about the skill of the shot, it's certainly not about how good you are at post production.
It becomes make believe when you boost colours that weren't there or silver B&W shots, that isn't the shot that was in front of the lens that you snapped is it, there was one shot in this competition a while ago that was beautiful, a sunrise/sunset (great colours) behind a cloud at the coast, I voted for it, it was a great shot, then he showed you the shot before post production and it wasn't anything like what I voted for, I felt violated

it seemed like cheating to me, I think it's almost cheating but it's not against any rules here, so I decided I'd try to take PP into consideration when voting.

So you did, apologies.

No probs, that is all i was asking. Just some background to why you had such restricting criteria.

I can see what you are saying but I don't agree. Just as their was room in film days to make alterations after the shot had been taken, in the dark room the same applies to digital once it is on the computer.

I think you would be hard pushed to find a published photo that has not had any post production work on it, whether that is fixing a white balance problem or boosting certain colours.

As you said you liked the photo until you knew it wasn't as is out of camera, surely a good photo is a good photo regardless of what post work has been done.

peachbum · 9th June 2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sketchy

It was less in name calling, more their view (which is entitled) being very different to the norm, but without giving reasoning for their views

A lot of people don't give their reasons for their votes. Which is a shame on occasion. TE said he ignored all the B+W photos as clichéd. That was his opinion, we don't have to agree with him.
He is right about the "arse-licking" too (in general rather than in particular), I know several people who won't take part in this competition (any longer) because it can be a bit cliquey on occasion.

Steeeeed · 9th June 2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ayesane

cheeky. But I like it.

Steeeeds fault.

And I'm normally such a pacifist! Clearly today's confrontational blip has gone already as I've just been informed we're going on the piss in jesmond and I didn't even mention the words Germany and Portugal!

Iain Hesford's Bait Box · 9th June 2012, 09:02 PM

what's going on ere then?

Iain Hesford's Bait Box · 9th June 2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TiredEyes

... erm yeah, ok then

For me it's about the skill of the shot, it's certainly not about how good you are at post production.
It becomes make believe when you boost colours that weren't there or silver B&W shots, that isn't the shot that was in front of the lens that you snapped is it, there was one shot in this competition a while ago that was beautiful, a sunrise/sunset (great colours) behind a cloud at the coast, I voted for it, it was a great shot, then he showed you the shot before post production and it wasn't anything like what I voted for, I felt violated

it seemed like cheating to me, I think it's almost cheating but it's not against any rules here, so I decided I'd try to take PP into consideration when voting.

So you did, apologies.

Clyde's shot wasn't it? it was processed in Lightroom, exactly like what the camera does internally when it generates the JPG. Except he took control, and processed the RAW file himself. PP is no different to darkroom manipulation. Digital has just made it accesible.