Not too big to fail

[LondonBlackCat]

Originally Posted by SuperKevin

If Abramovich or Sheikh Mansour ever get bored, both clubs have unsustainable financial commitments. Both clubs leak money and run on a massive loss every year.

Man Utd, even with their transfer/wage budget and debt payments, consistently post profits.

They've got £423.3m of debt though don't they? If the Glaziers bail out at some point, Man U would implode spectacularly.

[andy78]

Originally Posted by redandwhiterob

Could possibly be us

Already did happen to us, not remember the two record low PL seasons? We just got lucky and recovered.

Originally Posted by chris_dunn59

Absolutely no chance.

So you think, for an infinite time in the future, Man Utd will never be relegated again?

Right...

[brir]

Originally Posted by LondonBlackCat

They've got £423.3m of debt though don't they? If the Glaziers bail out at some point, Man U would implode spectacularly.

Is it not nearer £700m? Although £423m or £700m doesnt make much difference really

[Rimario]

Originally Posted by andy78

Football changes quickly, only takes a few bad transfer decisions and a few injuries to key players at the start of the season, then lack of confidence grows, teams start attacking rather than being scared and going on the back foot from the off.

Thing is Utd can have 10 key players out for most part of the season, and they wouldn't go down ... they're that much better than so many teams (and will be for many, many years), they've got that much more strength in depth... and 10 key players out for a long time isn't very likely...

The rules of the game will have to change drastically before they risk going down. A salary cap that all teams share, but that won't happen.

But of course, no one can know how things stand the year 2128.

[Zelo]

Originally Posted by KST

Not historically massive but Man City when the Arabs get bored of their 'play thing' and decide not to spunk anymore money on them.

They'll be royally fucked one day.

Is the correct answer - not necessarily Man City, but the idea is right

[andy78]

Originally Posted by Rimario

Thing is Utd can have 10 key players out for most part of the season, and they wouldn't go down ... they're that much better than so many teams (and will be for many, many years), they've got that much more strength in depth... and 10 key players out for a long time isn't very likely...

The rules of the game will have to change drastically before they risk going down. A salary cap that all teams share, but that won't happen.

It won't, eventually they will go down again.

[Cushy Botterfield]

Originally Posted by Rimario

Thing is Utd can have 10 key players out for most part of the season, and they wouldn't go down ... they're that much better than so many teams (and will be for many, many years), they've got that much more strength in depth... and 10 key players out for a long time isn't very likely...

The rules of the game will have to change drastically before they risk going down. A salary cap that all teams share, but that won't happen.

But of course, no one can know how things stand the year 2128.

Well I guess that's the point.

I don't think Man Utd will struggle in the next few seasons, but how many Forest fans would have predicted, say circa 1987, that they'd spend the next 20 years struggling.

Same goes for Liverpool. How many of their supporters would have imagined 1990 as the their last title.

It can happen quickly. With a few wrong choices relegation or struggle can really sneak up on a club.

[Wildspitze7]

Liverpool
Villa
Stoke
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All in the next 10 years.

[MCFC]

Debt is surely the big danger..Leeds, Pompey, Rangers, Fiorentina etc etc.
Debt brought them to their knees at one point.

So don´t worry about clubs that are in the red but are debtfree, basically they could just cut expenses and make a profit.
But debt are a slow death if it grows.

[brir]

Originally Posted by MCFC

Debt is surely the big danger..Leeds, Pompey, Rangers, Fiorentina etc etc.
Debt brought them to their knees at one point.

So don´t worry about clubs that are in the red but are debtfree, basically they could just cut expenses and make a profit.
But debt are a slow death if it grows.

Which Man U's seems to be doing presently