RTG Sunderland  Message Boards    
 
  • www.readytogo.net
  • www.a-love-supreme.com

  • Go Back   RTG Sunderland Message Boards > Sunderland Message Boards > Pure Football

    Notices

    Register and logon to remove this advert

    Closed Thread
     
    Thread Tools Display Modes
    Old 1st May 2012, 11:02 AM   #51
    zebediah
    Winger
     
     
    Join Date: Jun 2007
    Default Re: :LONG POST ALERT: If you want Man City to win league, how old are you?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Guinness Guzzler View Post
    Aye but I dont think clubs should be allowed to just have a massive initial outlay to boost them up the league structure- teams should have to operate profitably purely on footballing revenue. When that happens (which I realise probably never will again) then you'll have a real sport where a team can realistically hope to move their way up the ladder by operating sensibly, investing in youth, marketing themselves well etc. For now its still just a wallet measuring contest regardless of whether some of the clubs eventually become self sufficient
    Man Utd and Arsenal would love that, guaranteed CL football forever more.

    The ONLY reason teams below used to have a chance was due to the equal split of cash, as soon as the PL was formed everyone else was pretty much fked unless they invested heavily:

    Newcastle
    Blackburn
    Chelsea
    Man City
    __________________
    I'm now 41, thats a lot of shite to have been through with SAFC, if one day we achieve something and someone calls me a bandwagoner, I'll lamp them.
    zebediah is offline  
    Old 1st May 2012, 11:08 AM   #52
    mephisto
    Midfield
     
     
    Join Date: Aug 2009
    Location: Silksworth
    Default Re: :LONG POST ALERT: If you want Man City to win league, how old are you?

    I am leaning towards Man Utd, but if Citeh win, it honestly wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Though having said that, if Citeh do win it, it would make me feel proud that we had taken 4 points from the Champions, and bar a penalty that never was, it would have been six!

    I'm 44.

    I don't know which Manchester team he would have chosen, but Blep was 47!
    __________________
    Aw Bollocks man!! Blep was 47.
    x-box gamertag Pigeon Assassin

    11:10 AM..
    mephisto is offline  
    Old 1st May 2012, 11:12 AM   #53
    Kevin Arnott's right boot
    Striker
     
     
    Join Date: Jul 2002
    Location: Birmingham
    Default Re: :LONG POST ALERT: If you want Man City to win league, how old are you?

    City. I'm 40.
    __________________
    If something like that really matters then you are a tiresome, sad, statistically obsessed individual
    Kevin Arnott's right boot is offline  
    Old 1st May 2012, 11:41 AM   #54
    sb022x1030
    Midfield
     
     
    Join Date: May 2010
    Location: Pallion
    Default Re: :LONG POST ALERT: If you want Man City to win league, how old are you?

    I wan't City to win but I'm 19 and grew up with the Sky generation and the Premier League so I suppose that I prove your point
    sb022x1030 is offline  
    Old 1st May 2012, 11:47 AM   #55
    redandwhiterob
    Striker
     
     
    Join Date: Jun 2008
    Location: Horden
    Default Re: :LONG POST ALERT: If you want Man City to win league, how old are you?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Guinness Guzzler View Post
    At least they can afford these players through generating football revenue though- through prize money, marketing, sponsorship, things that other teams could try and compete on. Man City afford their players simply by having a mega rich arab lad spunking money on them, how can anyone even begin to compete with that? If the only way of competing is to get a rich bloke ourselves, why bother playing football, why not just get a load of rich blokes to compare wallets?
    So are we all just to sit back and let Man Utd win the league because they generate the most money each year
    __________________
    The weak get crushed as the strong grow stronger
    redandwhiterob is online now  
    Old 1st May 2012, 11:49 AM   #56
    GK
    Striker
     
     
    Join Date: Jul 2002
    Location: la la
    Default Re: :LONG POST ALERT: If you want Man City to win league, how old are you?

    City all the way. I'm 39 and went to my first game in 1980.
    __________________
    for most teams 2-0 down only means that any time soon they will equalise. It is to be expected. Not for Sunderland. We can barely come back once 1-0 down. But we did equalise.
    GK is offline  
    Old 1st May 2012, 11:53 AM   #57
    observer
    Reserve Squad
     
    Join Date: Jan 2011
    Default Re: :LONG POST ALERT: If you want Man City to win league, how old are you?

    I
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Barry Siddall View Post
    Im 63 and want Man City to win the league - never even read ya OP anarl
    This . If Mr Rich Arab/Russian whoever wants to spend 500 million on us to win the premiership I will be happy. We were known as the Bank of England club many years ago I could live with that again
    observer is offline  
    Old 1st May 2012, 12:08 PM   #58
    Wearsider93
    Full Back
     
    Join Date: Mar 2012
    Location: Sunderland
    Default Re: :LONG POST ALERT: If you want Man City to win league, how old are you?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MackemX View Post
    plagiarised from this post when it looked good for Man Utd to win title

    http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthr...8#post12269818

    I can't believe any 'true' fan would want Man City to win the league. If you do then I bet your no older than 30 and grew up in the Sky Generation of football

    here's some info just to show exactly what I mean and why Man City shouldn't win the league. Aye teams may be worth more or less when compared but it's the way Man City have built the team that is sickening. This is the kind of thing that has done even more damage to the 'spirit' of football in the last 20 years

    in the last 4 seasons, Man City have a NET spend of £391,650,000
    http://www.transferleague.co.uk/prem...transfers.html

    with another £174 million on wages for 2010-11 and fuck knows how much this season
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...gulations.html

    in the last 4 seasons Man Utd have a NET spend of £47,500,000
    http://www.transferleague.co.uk/prem...transfers.html

    Man Utd have only spent around £130 million in total in the 4 seasons. It's only due to this seasons 3 big signings they have actually spent more than they've sold in the last 4 seasons. Whereas City have spent £127, £125, £155, £76 Million in each season since 07-08 and only sold

    it looks as if Man Utd only have a NET spend of £177 million since 92-93 which is less than £10 million a season!


    also what superstar wages/bonuses are City paying their players? Aren't the likes of Toure on £250,000 a week? I bet each player is probably on a bonus of at least £1 million to win the league as it's pennies to the owners. Plus didn't quite a lot of Utd's spending come from previous sales due to building a team over years rather than just buying a complete new team like City have?

    City came along flashing the cash and have just made the game worse with inflated bids/wages for players. The hilarious thing now is that the arrogance shown from many fans who expected to walk the league earlier this season has now (hopefully) come back and slapped them in the face

    hopefully they will never win the league at all as this is just the icing on the cake to killing the competitiveness of the league. Saying that the damage is already done as how the fuck can other teams compete with that kind of financial backing without the mega wealthy owners behind them?

    Blackburn did it in the 90's (NUFC tried but thanks to Man Utd they didn't) and Chelsea in the 00's and now it's Man City in the 10's. Whereas Man United have spent big over the years they have also sold big or brought players through, hence the low overall NET spend on players since 1992. I'm not too keen on them but I'd prefer they win it. The fact the have supporters out of Manchester is only due to the success and Sky TV but if it was SAFC would you still be complaining that we had 70,000 watching and Sky were creaming over us? Some probably would but most wouldn't

    just like anything/anybody that has success, they are eventually hated by other supporters but at least it hasn't been bought in the extreme that Man City could possibly be. Will they be the next hate club when you see Man City tops floating around in coming years around Sunderland etc?

    if Man City do win it and gain the exposure then what's to stop some rich bassa from buying say Spurs and then hoying 1 Billion into the coffers to buy Messi/Ronaldo and other top players etc in a few years? It could easily happen Sadly football in now a business and also a plaything to those who can afford to invest and nothing more

    it's like cheating a footy manager when you were a kid as you'd hack it to get unlimited spending and then just buy the best players (or use a 2nd team as a donor). Aye it's class winning everything but it's just cheating and not as much fun/satisfaction as doing it the normal way

    also, people moan about ticket prices etc, well it's teams like Man City that are just going to put more pressure on the trailing teams to fight over the scraps of the players who are left. The bubble will probably burst one day but teams & Sky won't be bothered as people will still pay to watch them on TV as gate receipts mean very little to big clubs these days

    :steps off soapbox:

    Always like Man City, more a 2nd team tbf, since i was young its great to see them doing well, who cares about the money they have spent, they've brought great talent to our league and make the games more enjoyable to watch, its better to see City at the top than the same old United every season with the exception of Chelsea every few year, big spending or not what does it matter anyway? im sure if we got took over by the same people and had Tevez, Aguero, nasri, Silva and so on youd stop coming to the games because we dont deserve to be winning games/leagues
    Wearsider93 is offline  
    Old 1st May 2012, 12:17 PM   #59
    flanny1
    Midfield
     
     
    Join Date: Nov 2008
    Location: Washington
    Default Re: :LONG POST ALERT: If you want Man City to win league, how old are you?

    i really don't care, both are as bad as each other and both have great players

    as it stands i hope city win as it would take the mags to beat city and united to beat us for united to be champions

    edit - oh i'm 22, not that it matters as your arguments doesn't make sense
    __________________
    'would you smash it?'
    'you can go round there any night and find Rednapp hanging out the back of it' Keys

    12:20 PM..
    flanny1 is offline  
    Old 1st May 2012, 12:19 PM   #60
    Mackemansj1
    Striker
     
     
    Join Date: Jun 2005
    Location: Southwick
    Default Re: :LONG POST ALERT: If you want Man City to win league, how old are you?

    Money has always played a part ffs, its been this way forever in most sports. The only good way would be to follow the american system where all teams have limits and drafts etc of the better youngsters go to the lower finishing sides to give them a chance the following season. But the horse has already bolted and it would be impossible to enforce, so money is here to stay. Im 29 and want city to win someone different aint it.
    Mackemansj1 is online now  
    Sponsored Links
    Closed Thread

    Bookmarks

    Thread Tools
    Display Modes

    Posting Rules
    You may not post new threads
    You may not post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is On
    HTML code is Off

    Forum Jump


    All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:24 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin
    Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Copyright © Ready To Go 1998-2013
    Page generated in 0.09908 seconds with 12 queries

    Partially Powered By Products Found At Lampwrights.com