The Waffen SS

[walter mitty]

Originally Posted by UZZA_SPARTA

And to add to that, or to clarify the point I was trying to make, it was during the Nuremberg Trials that the policy of the SS-WVHA Dept became clear:

"The State gives orders to the economy; the State does not exist for the benefit of the economy; but the economy exists for the benefit of the State."


All I've been doing was trying to give a wider view on the stereotype image of the SS, and how certain companies benefitted from being SS card holders.
I'm not that bothered who specifically designed what or which individual made this or that, because that doesn't really matter.

That book I quoted in a previous post gives an interesting account of how industry was manipulated during the war.

you made out that the ss ran the companies you quoted , it didnt

oh and coca cola didnt operate in germany during the war lol

[UZZA_SPARTA]

Originally Posted by walter mitty

you made out that the ss ran the companies you quoted , it didnt....

maybe you should invest in a new pair of reading glasses then?

Originally Posted by walter mitty

....oh and coca cola didnt operate in germany during the war lol

then you believe that if it makes you happy?


Original thread was all about the SS, Waffen SS, and what they did or didn't do during the war. My comments were about how the hollywood stereotype image wasn't the complete picture.

You seem to have a gift in then turning things into some kind of argument which have absolutely jack shit to do with the original topic?

[walter mitty]

Originally Posted by UZZA_SPARTA

maybe you should invest in a new pair of reading glasses then?




then you believe that if it makes you happy?


Original thread was all about the SS, Waffen SS, and what they did or didn't do during the war. My comments were about how the hollywood stereotype image wasn't the complete picture.

You seem to have a gift in then turning things into some kind of argument which have absolutely jack shit to do with the original topic?

coca cola cut off all ties during the war, fact, fanta was invented because of this

[Wierd Valley Mackem]

[QUOTE=walter mitty;12470609]where did the einsatzgruppen get their numbers from?

I know this is a technicality but the Einsatzgruppen were not the Waffen SS. But as ive said before the SS and the Wehrmacht itself is more complex than one may think.
Its like saying Wingate's Chindits, most were front line soldiers but when they were part of the Chindits they were'nt if that helps?
The Waffen SS were the fighting front line forces of the SS, if they became attached to other units (as they frequently did) they no longer are Waffen SS.
As to the War crimes they were convicted en masse without reguard to whether individuals had done anything. Many were conscripts who didnt have a choice to be part of the SS Waffen or otherwise.

[walter mitty]

[QUOTE=Wierd Valley Mackem;12470901]

Originally Posted by walter mitty

where did the einsatzgruppen get their numbers from?

I know this is a technicality but the Einsatzgruppen were not the Waffen SS. But as ive said before the SS and the Wehrmacht itself is more complex than one may think.
Its like saying Wingate's Chindits, most were front line soldiers but when they were part of the Chindits they were'nt if that helps?
The Waffen SS were the fighting front line forces of the SS, if they became attached to other units (as they frequently did) they no longer are Waffen SS.
As to the War crimes they were convicted en masse without reguard to whether individuals had done anything. Many were conscripts who didnt have a choice to be part of the SS Waffen or otherwise.

i know they werent but the men who were in the einsatzgruppen came from the waffen ss

[Wierd Valley Mackem]

[QUOTE=walter mitty;12470914]

Originally Posted by Wierd Valley Mackem

i know they werent but the men who were in the einsatzgruppen came from the waffen ss

A percentage thats true.
I think from memory when it was formed they were Police (or some sort of Police as there wass various police types then) then as the war went on, members came from the Baltic states who when you read about them they were more sadistic than the Germans themselves!

[walter mitty]

[QUOTE=Wierd Valley Mackem;12471002]

Originally Posted by walter mitty

A percentage thats true.
I think from memory when it was formed they were Police (or some sort of Police as there wass various police types then) then as the war went on, members came from the Baltic states who when you read about them they were more sadistic than the Germans themselves!

some members of the civilians police ,by the end of the war there was no civilian poilice it had been absorbed into the SS

[knarfw]

Yes, the SS were responsible for everything in WW2. Every single one of them was a cold blooded murderer with blood on their hands.

You have to admire Allied propaganda.

[walter mitty]

Originally Posted by knarfw

Yes, the SS were responsible for everything in WW2. Every single one of them was a cold blooded murderer with blood on their hands.

You have to admire Allied propaganda.

[Joe Fabulous]

No one responded to ny question about this lot yesterday?