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    Old 21st March 2012, 06:17 PM   #11
    safcrhys
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    Default Re: Crawling out of the woodwork

    I think it is frustration more than anything.

    We can on occasion, attract crowds of nearly 50,000. See the derby game this season, Liverpool last season etc...

    But the rest of the time we're stuck around the 40,000 mark, supporters who turn up every game to watch the team are questioning why thousands (and that is no exaggeration) are only turning up at the SoL once or twice a season.

    If gates could just improve to around the level they were when Keane was in charge in 2007/08 where we averaged 43,355 and the ground had many crowds of 45,000+ near the end of that season then I think most people would be satisfied.

    It is a cause for concern that no matter what the club seems to do these days that a large percentage of our fanbase still choose not to turn up unless we play Newcastle.
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    Old 21st March 2012, 06:19 PM   #12
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    I think it is frustration more than anything.

    We can on occasion, attract crowds of nearly 50,000. See the derby game this season, Liverpool last season etc...

    But the rest of the time we're stuck around the 40,000 mark, supporters who turn up every game to watch the team are questioning why thousands (and that is no exaggeration) are only turning up at the SoL once or twice a season.

    If gates could just improve to around the level they were when Keane was in charge in 2007/08 where we averaged 43,355 and the ground had many crowds of 45,000+ near the end of that season then I think most people would be satisfied.

    It is a cause for concern that no matter what the club seems to do these days that a large percentage of our fanbase still choose not to turn up unless we play Newcastle.
    I just start laughing at this point, cos 40k is bloody great in this economic climate

    When I used to have a ST we were averaging 16 - 20 k

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    Old 21st March 2012, 06:20 PM   #13
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    Can we assume a lot of these woodlice are often fans that have given the club thousands of pounds over the years?
    good point - ST for over 30 years, now pick and choose as an exile, with most games online for me. Going to the Everton game, but only if I can break through this coat of hard varnish. Plastic fan me.
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    Old 21st March 2012, 06:21 PM   #14
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    I just start laughing at this point, cos 40k is bloody great in this economic climate

    When I used to have a ST we were averaging 16 - 20 k

    Where were you? Not born? No excuse
    I'm not saying 40k is bad mate, in fact I think its brilliant that despite us managing that amount regularly its still viewed as a bad gate by some people! Shows just how big Sunderland is and can be.
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    Old 21st March 2012, 06:22 PM   #15
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    "i was here when we were shit" and that has been a lot in 33 years
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    Old 21st March 2012, 06:24 PM   #16
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    I crawled out the woodwork for the Anglo Italian cup tie against Birmingham when we had 5000 thought we were going to get into Europe and still managed to feck that up
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    Old 21st March 2012, 06:24 PM   #17
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    Anyone who finds it appropriate to criticise what anyone else is doing with their money and leisure time has a real problem putting their own life into perspective. This is because they are so obsessed with the idea of being the 'loyal' or 'hardcore' football fan that when they do not see the same nonsensical obsession in other people they find it hard to come to terms with.

    This is not to say there is anything necessarily problematic with wanting to go to every match (and actually going) and caring very deeply about the results, but it is problematically obsessive if it either negatively affects their own family members or it transfers into absurd and unjustified criticism of other people who choose not to attend every game.
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    Old 21st March 2012, 06:24 PM   #18
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    I'm not saying 40k is bad mate, in fact I think its brilliant that despite us managing that amount regularly its still viewed as a bad gate by some people! Shows just how big Sunderland is and can be.
    I'm glad it's not you, because anyone who views 35-40k average as poor is an utter mongtard

    We are averaging comfortably above our historical average just now, at a time when footy is proportionally more expensive than ever before

    I'm still surprised that anyone is surprised that more people want to go to big games....

    Why not? Perfectly logical

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    "i was here when we were shit" and that has been a lot in 33 years
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    Anyone who finds it appropriate to criticise what anyone else is doing with their money and leisure time has a real problem putting their own life into perspective. This is because they are so obsessed with the idea of being the 'loyal' or 'hardcore' football fan that when they do not see the same nonsensical obsession in other people they find it hard to come to terms with.

    This is not to say there is anything necessarily problematic with wanting to go to every match (and actually going) and caring very deeply about the results, but it is problematically obsessive if it either negatively affects their own family members or it transfers into absurd and unjustified criticism of other people who choose not to attend every game.
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    Old 21st March 2012, 06:29 PM   #19
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    I'm glad it's not you, because anyone who views 35-40k average as poor is an utter mongtard

    We are averaging comfortably above our historical average just now, at a time when footy is proportionally more expensive than ever before

    I'm still surprised that anyone is surprised that more people want to go to big games....

    Why not? Perfectly logical



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    we can tell that you only turn up when we are doing well.

    fucking part timer!
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    Old 21st March 2012, 06:30 PM   #20
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    we can tell that you only turn up when we are doing well.

    fucking part timer!
    I turn up even less than that
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