Leaving flowers and other "tributes" outside Bolton's ground

[zebedee]

Originally Posted by Nee Onions Mate

Not trying to belittle the situation like but creating a "shrine" outside the ground seems a bit premature to me.

agreed - its OTT

[bongo]

Originally Posted by SuperKev

aye reetio and you've been busy with graft for the last 6 months

Your words

or have you changed your mind?

No, can you not understand the difference between someone that does the same job and that might actually know them and people like you?

You'd better look for a new thread to feel sorry on someones behalf as it looks like this lad might be OK.
Go on, fuck off and find something else to cry about.

[SuperKev]

Originally Posted by bongo;12162397[B

]No, can you not understand the difference between someone that does the same job and that might actually know them and people like you?[/B]

You'd better look for a new thread to feel sorry on someones behalf as it looks like this lad might be OK.
Go on, fuck off and find something else to cry about.

They were your words not mine - I've read them a few times (unfortunately) and there's no qualification on them and it's pretty clear what your view is on those and that it's fucking disgusting behaviour and they should give their money to the hospital or a charity that deals with the problem instead of racing to be the most upset or offended.

That MKII Escort must sense it's getting some company in 5 minutes.

[mackemglastoid]

Originally Posted by Dibble

Britons are feeding their own egos by indulging in "recreational grief" for murdered children and dead celebrities they have never met, claims a report.
Think-tank Civitas said wearing charity ribbons, holding silences and joining protest marches all indicated the country was in emotional crisis.

The author said "mourning sickness" was a substitute for religion.

Rather than "piling up damp teddies and rotting flowers" people should go out and do some real good, he urged.

In his report, Conspicuous Compassion, author Patrick West said people were trying to feel better about themselves by taking part in "manufactured emotion".

Describing extravagant public displays of grief for strangers as 'grief-lite' Mr West said these activities were, "undertaken as an enjoyable event, much like going to a football match or the last night of the proms".

"Mourning sickness is a religion for the lonely crowd that no longer subscribes to orthodox churches. Its flowers and teddies are its rites, its collective minutes' silences its liturgy and mass.

This obsession with mourning those we have never met devalues true national commemorations like Remembrance Sunday

"But these new bonds are phoney, ephemeral and cynical," he said.

"We saw this at its most ghoulish after the demise of Diana. In truth, mourners were not crying for her, but for themselves," he wrote.

Years later, he claimed, "Diana had served her purpose. The public had moved on. These recreational grievers were now emoting about Jill Dando, Linda McCartney or the Soham girls."

His 80-page pamphlet said that while the Soham murders were "unquestionably tragic", it was "almost as distressing to see sections of the public jumping on the grief bandwagon".

He said the traditional minute's silence has suffered "compassion inflation" and become meaningless.

"They are getting longer and we are having more of them, because we want to be seen to care."

"When a group called Hedgeline calls for a two-minute silence to remember all the 'victims' whose neighbours have grown towering hedges, we truly have reached the stage where this gesture has been emptied of meaning," he added.

Marchers should have questioned their motives, said the author

Moving on to the wearing of charity ribbons, the report said the act served to "celebrate the culture of victimhood" and was an egotistical gesture to announce "I care".

The trend had not been accompanied by a tangible increase in charity donations, it added, and there was now an "unspoken competition" to see who could wear their Remembrance Day poppy earliest, "particularly among politicians".

And on going on demonstrations, the report said it was "too often an exercise in attention-seeking".

"Next time you profess that you "care" about something, consider your motives and the consequences of your words and actions. Sometimes, the only person you really care about is you," said the report.

Love Dibble me like.

[Sunderland White Lions]

Originally Posted by Thatmackem

Another one of the proper lads died on a stag do in Amsterdam......we went to the SoL for a send off.....

People die .......deal with it.

What happened there, mate? If it's personal, forget I asked.

[Icarebecauseyoudo]

Originally Posted by Dibble

Britons are feeding their own egos by indulging in "recreational grief" for murdered children and dead celebrities they have never met, claims a report.
Think-tank Civitas said wearing charity ribbons, holding silences and joining protest marches all indicated the country was in emotional crisis.

The author said "mourning sickness" was a substitute for religion.

Rather than "piling up damp teddies and rotting flowers" people should go out and do some real good, he urged.

In his report, Conspicuous Compassion, author Patrick West said people were trying to feel better about themselves by taking part in "manufactured emotion".

Describing extravagant public displays of grief for strangers as 'grief-lite' Mr West said these activities were, "undertaken as an enjoyable event, much like going to a football match or the last night of the proms".

"Mourning sickness is a religion for the lonely crowd that no longer subscribes to orthodox churches. Its flowers and teddies are its rites, its collective minutes' silences its liturgy and mass.

This obsession with mourning those we have never met devalues true national commemorations like Remembrance Sunday

"But these new bonds are phoney, ephemeral and cynical," he said.

"We saw this at its most ghoulish after the demise of Diana. In truth, mourners were not crying for her, but for themselves," he wrote.

Years later, he claimed, "Diana had served her purpose. The public had moved on. These recreational grievers were now emoting about Jill Dando, Linda McCartney or the Soham girls."

His 80-page pamphlet said that while the Soham murders were "unquestionably tragic", it was "almost as distressing to see sections of the public jumping on the grief bandwagon".

He said the traditional minute's silence has suffered "compassion inflation" and become meaningless.

"They are getting longer and we are having more of them, because we want to be seen to care."

"When a group called Hedgeline calls for a two-minute silence to remember all the 'victims' whose neighbours have grown towering hedges, we truly have reached the stage where this gesture has been emptied of meaning," he added.

Marchers should have questioned their motives, said the author

Moving on to the wearing of charity ribbons, the report said the act served to "celebrate the culture of victimhood" and was an egotistical gesture to announce "I care".

The trend had not been accompanied by a tangible increase in charity donations, it added, and there was now an "unspoken competition" to see who could wear their Remembrance Day poppy earliest, "particularly among politicians".

And on going on demonstrations, the report said it was "too often an exercise in attention-seeking".

"Next time you profess that you "care" about something, consider your motives and the consequences of your words and actions. Sometimes, the only person you really care about is you," said the report.

Good stuff like

[bongo]

Originally Posted by SuperKev

They were your words not mine - I've read them a few times (unfortunately) and there's no qualification on them and it's pretty clear what your view is on those and that it's fucking disgusting behaviour and they should give their money to the hospital or a charity that deals with the problem instead of racing to be the most upset or offended.

That MKII Escort must sense it's getting some company in 5 minutes.

Bless, you like pretending you're a pro footballer?
You can't see the difference between them doing it and you doing it?
Bearing in mind they'll probably know the bloke and will have met him quite a few times?
Enough attention seeking from me, your posts in this thread just prove that what Dibble wrote is 100% spot on.
What a sad fucking knacker you are, using a sick blokes thread to get attention for yourself.

[Steve Leeds]

Originally Posted by The Butcher

Maybe I am being harsh in saying this but there seems to be a professional grieving culture in this country now, probably helped by facebook, twitter and messageborards. OTT IMHO.

i see there are 18 pages but on page 2 I find myself saying THIS

Hope the lad pulls through. really do. but.......

[SuperKev]

Originally Posted by bongo

Bless, you like pretending you're a pro footballer?
You can't see the difference between them doing it and you doing it?
Bearing in mind they'll probably know the bloke and will have met him quite a few times?
Enough attention seeking from me, your posts in this thread just prove that what Dibble wrote is 100% spot on.
What a sad fucking knacker you are, using a sick blokes thread to get attention for yourself.

About the only thing you've got right so far and it's good that you can admit it but next time it might be better if you don't bring me in to one of your attention seeking threads.

MRII Escort is getting warmed up - the AA are getting ready - we'll see you in another 6

[Steve Leeds]

Originally Posted by JonMc

Di had a lot to answer for. It never used to be like this.

its true. but i remember in that case they showed the smattering of flowers put down and then people thought, wow! we can bring some too. and they did. acres worth. that was cool. once.

nowsadays the reporter "outside the ground" does the same thing, reports that 10 sets of flowers/cards have been lain and then everyone decides they need to do the same thing and it sets off a chain reaction. now its happening before someone has passed.

but also people have the facebook/twitter/footy forums (we are social networks too you know, albeit closed ones) etc where an individual is their own media stream in effect. and boy, do they use it. wonder what george orwell would say?