Scott Borthwick

[NorthCountryBoy]

Originally Posted by CHARLIE COROLE

Arguably has the potential to be Durhams best ever Test match product.

Probably get some stick for this and I know he's raw but I've never been to fussed by his bowling.

[The Breen Machine]

Originally Posted by NorthCountryBoy

Probably get some stick for this and I know he's raw but I've never been to fussed by his bowling.

His stats don't make great reading but there's definitley something there. England have done the right thing by involving him early so his learning process is as extended as possible. Excellent fielder and handy bat too so got all the attributes to be a very exciting cricketer IMO.

[essex boy]

Originally Posted by The Breen Machine

His stats don't make great reading but there's definitley something there. England have done the right thing by involving him early so his learning process is as extended as possible. Excellent fielder and handy bat too so got all the attributes to be a very exciting cricketer IMO.

good in all aspects of the game but a master of none springs to mind

[The Breen Machine]

Originally Posted by essex boy

good in all aspects of the game but a master of none springs to mind

He's 20 with barely 2 seasons behind him, and is a genuine attacking leg-spin bowler.

Give the lad a chance rather than pigeon hole him into sounding like a Michael Yardy or Jamie Dalrymple.

[rentaghost]

Originally Posted by NorthCountryBoy

Probably get some stick for this and I know he's raw but I've never been to fussed by his bowling.

Hes certainly doesnt come across as a leggie thats going to bamboozle top drawer batsmen but I think the mystery of leg spin isnt what it was. He comes across as a cricketer with really good mental strength. I think he will have a good international career especially in the one day format.

[ProfessionalMackem]

Originally Posted by The Breen Machine

His stats don't make great reading but there's definitley something there. England have done the right thing by involving him early so his learning process is as extended as possible. Excellent fielder and handy bat too so got all the attributes to be a very exciting cricketer IMO.

So we've given up on Adil Rashid id take it?

[essex boy]

Originally Posted by ProfessionalMackem

So we've given up on Adil Rashid id take it?

look at the likes of Mushy and Kaneria. -Bamboozled county batsman for years despite average/mediocre intl records

If Borthwick was the real deal he would be taking 60 wickets a year already, he takes barely half that

[CHARLIE COROLE]

Originally Posted by essex boy

look at the likes of Mushy and Kaneria. -Bamboozled county batsman for years despite average/mediocre intl records

If Borthwick was the real deal he would be taking 60 wickets a year already, he takes barely half that

Borthwick has not bowled that many overs for Durham. He is playing on northern puddings, hardly condusive to spin. Durham and Englands handling of him, all things considered, is pretty good. The key here is potential, considering most spinners do not bloom till late 20's.

[essex boy]

Originally Posted by CHARLIE COROLE

Borthwick has not bowled that many overs for Durham. He is playing on northern puddings, hardly condusive to spin. Durham and Englands handling of him, all things considered, is pretty good. The key here is potential, considering most spinners do not bloom till late 20's.

rubbish. Dont use Swann as the shining example to back this up

Borthwick is average just like Rashid is or was

[CHARLIE COROLE]

Originally Posted by essex boy

rubbish. Dont use Swann as the shining example to back this up

Borthwick is average just like Rashid is or was

Did i mention Swann ?

It is a fact that most spinners do not master their art at 21. The experience they gain makes them a more canny competitor late doors. Coaches like Jenner, Parsons and Embury allude to this. And to be fair they have forgot more than i know.

Yes, i accept genius like Warne and Murali can cut the mustard straight away but as i say we are talking genius.

I don't accept that Borthwick has average potential. And neither does that world class coach Andy Flower.