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    Old 26th July 2011, 04:05 PM   #1
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    Though this was very interesting - shamelessly Thor'd from a user called 'mwhite' in the comments under this article. Some of it is going over old ground, but this should be required reading for anyone who has posted "What Brievik did was bad, but..." over the last few days.


    Myth 1: “The biggest threat to the security of EU citizens is Muslim terrorism.” Yet the EU's Terrorism Situation and Trend Report (2010) states that in 2009 there were "294 failed, foiled, or successfully executed attacks" in six European countries. This was down almost one-third from the total in 2008 and down by almost one-half from the total in 2007. How many of these attacks were carried out by Muslims? Just one.

    Myth 2: “Europe is being swamped by Muslim immigrants and its culture is threatened.” Wrong. By 2050 Muslim population of the EU will be about 8%, by which time its birth rate will be the same as the non-Muslim population.

    Myth 3: “Immigrants refuse to integrate with the native population.” More nonsense. Asian Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus all marry outside of their own groups at the same rates as whites. For most ethnic minorities in Britain, roughly half or more of their friends are white, while only 20% of those born in Britain have friends only from their own group. In other words, immigrants are no more or less likely to integrate than native Britons who emigrate – and to suggest otherwise is racist per se. It is economic deprivation that causes racial tensions and not the failure of immigrants to integrate.

    Myth 4: “Mass immigration is the fault of the left.” Another lie. In fact, many on the left of the Labour Party have been complaining long and loud about the effects of immigration on the incomes of the poorest. For example, John Cruddas (The Guardian, 20th May 2005):

    “If you’re on £9 an hour and because of patterns of migration you’re now on £6.50, you’re going to have something to say about it, right? Immigration has been used as a 21st-century incomes policy. And protections in terms of the labour market have not been substantial enough.”

    By contrast, Conservatives, Liberal Democrats and those on the neoliberal wing of the Labour Party continue to make a case for “good” immigration – defined as that which fills labour shortages – whilst dismissing the fact that there are 2 million unemployed who ought to be capable of taking these jobs.

    Myth 5: “Immigrants are a drain on the welfare state.” Wrong again. According to a Home Office report (2007) immigrants had "high levels of skills” than native born UK citizens. It said that migrants earned on average £424 per week, compared with £395 for UK-born workers, and as a result paid more per head in tax and VAT than Britons.
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    Old 26th July 2011, 04:07 PM   #2
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    ten thousand pages, three meltdowns, severals threats of violence and a few bannings
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    Old 26th July 2011, 04:08 PM   #3
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    That's about immigrants, not just muslims.
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    Old 26th July 2011, 04:10 PM   #4
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    Quote:
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    ten thousand pages, three meltdowns, severals threats of violence and a few bannings
    Might as well throw in a picture of a snake just to really get things going.
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    Old 26th July 2011, 04:10 PM   #5
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    You should always wrap your Parmesan cheese in one and keep it in a cool place
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    Old 26th July 2011, 04:11 PM   #6
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    That's about immigrants, not just muslims.
    Good point.

    Any criticisms or counter arguments to make regarding the facts presented?
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    Old 26th July 2011, 04:11 PM   #7
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    They inspect their own poos, just like normal people.
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    Old 26th July 2011, 04:12 PM   #8
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    can they swim?
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    Old 26th July 2011, 04:13 PM   #9
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    Good point.

    Any criticisms or counter arguments to make regarding the facts presented?
    What facts.
    It's the Guardian

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    Old 26th July 2011, 04:14 PM   #10
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    Quote:
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    What facts.
    All the ones in the opening post, I'm guessing.
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