All this "Bruce Out" bollocks - Page 2

Dexter · 11th April 2011, 03:05 PM

No. Most of us have come to the reasonable conclusion that Bruce will never take us anywhere other than the lower reaches of the Premier League with no chance of ever winning a cup competition.

In short, he just isn't good enough.

TSL · 11th April 2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stadiumoflightlover

Two bad results against Stoke and West Brom. The rest - are they really that bad. The overachievement of the first 6 months of the season appear to have brought out the delusional SAFC fans who expect us to be challenging for Europe before we have even established ourselves in mid-table.

As opposed to the delusional fans who think 8 games without a win, 7 hours without a goal before West Brom, 3rd worst for goals scored in the league and a 14 match run last season without a win is acceptable you see

stadiumoflightlover · 11th April 2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by murrayout

enjoy mediocracy

I think mid table mediocracy is quite good for us, given where we've been in the past. Let's build from here, not break down in a fit of panic.

Crammy Mackem · 11th April 2011, 03:11 PM

Aye, cause any one with the username 'Nuggsy' obviously knows a great deal about football.

Your hero will be back soon to play his part in the Championship.

stadiumoflightlover · 11th April 2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TSL

As opposed to the delusional fans who think 8 games without a win, 7 hours without a goal before West Brom, 3rd worst for goals scored in the league and a 14 match run last season without a win is acceptable you see

With a bit of a level head, you could see that within those 8 games, it's only really West Brom and Stoke that are results that should've been different, and they could've turned out very different.

What would you consider acceptable then? After this many games, how many points, and what position is acceptable? 43 (5 more than we have now), and 2 points off 6th? 40 points, and 9th place? or two points less than that, after a tough run of fixtures and a game we should've won, which would've given us 1 more point than that if we'd won it.

sonson · 11th April 2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rocky

Deserve?

We should be wanting more.

Aye

But so what. That's not how football works. You win because you have the best players, and lots of money. Moreso than ever now, the two are linked.

Two seasons a go we escaped relegation. Last season, we bought one good player and one or two better players and we did a bit better, came midtable.

This season, we bought another good player, and added some more better players, and did better again. But in January money talked to one of our players, who left, left us in a time when it is notoriously hard to find a sensible deal, as the whole Torres/Carroll thing proved. Teams with more money bought better players and got better. We stood still, because we couldn't afford the stakes they were playing at, then played the better teams more or less in a row, and lost all but one.

All the other teams in a similar situation-some money, some talent-have pretty much the same points as us. Those who have less money and less talent are below, and those who have more money and more talent are above.

Wanting can't break this pattern I'm afraid. We won't climb til we have more talent and more money. It's how it works. Given what we do have, we fit right in the middle, and that's where we are. It's a very pragmatic way of looking at things maybe, but it seems to be borne out by how it works out in actuality.

SHY TALL KNIGHT · 11th April 2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stadiumoflightlover

With a bit of a level head, you could see that within those 8 games, it's only really West Brom and Stoke that are results that should've been different, and they could've turned out very different.

What would you consider acceptable then? After this many games, how many points, and what position is acceptable? 43 (5 more than we have now), and 2 points off 6th? 40 points, and 9th place? or two points less than that, after a tough run of fixtures and a game we should've won, which would've given us 1 more point than that if we'd won it.

With a bit of a level head, you could see that we have only won 1 in 11.

sonson · 11th April 2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dexter

No. Most of us have come to the reasonable conclusion that Bruce will never take us anywhere other than the lower reaches of the Premier League with no chance of ever winning a cup competition.

In short, he just isn't good enough.

This is an ideal cup team if we go for it i.e play our best 11. Given the way football is now, if anything, this is the future for me.

murrayout · 11th April 2011, 03:18 PM

Bruce is an embarrassment

stadiumoflightlover · 11th April 2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SHY TALL KNIGHT

With a bit of a level head, you could see that we have only won 1 in 11.

So what would you consider and acceptable number of points at this stage of the season?

Over the course of the season, you tend to have peaks and troughs. A lot of people were getting all giddy and excited when we were in 6th not so long ago - let's be realistic, we were punching above our weight then. We're having our trough now, lets see if we can pick it up and finish in the top half.