Sunderland Legends XI

[murrayout]

The word legend gets thrown about willy-nilly these days, what constitutes being a legend???

Being obly 20, I only started supporting the lads in 1995 so tin hat on as I don't have a memory which preceded my life. Here is my crack at a legend XI-

GK- Jimmy Montgomery

LB- Len Ashurst
CB- Charlie "The King" Hurley
CB- Gary Bennett
RB- Stan Anderson

MF- Bobby Kerr
MF- Ian Porterfield
MF- Gordon Armstrong

ST- Kevin Phillips
ST- Raich Carter
ST- Bobby Gurney

[Rickybilly]

Colin Todd, Joe Bolton, Dave Watson, Gary Rowell, Brian Clough, Len Shackleton, John Kay to add a few - not all for the same reasons!

[Mariner Mackem]

There should be a 'SAFC Hall of Fame' including the strongest XI imo. Someone else can be inducted every 2 years or so.

I would maybe swap Shackleton for Armstrong in your team like.

[murrayout]

Originally Posted by Rickybilly

Colin Todd, Joe Bolton, Dave Watson, Gary Rowell, Brian Clough, Len Shackleton, John Kay to add a few - not all for the same reasons!

but could you put Brian Clough and Gary Rowell ahead of the 3 forwards mentioned??

I love Lord Rowell, but he was outscored by SuperKev and he isn't as good as Carter and Gurney (alledgedly, I wasn't born then)

And Clough maybe if he didn't get injured, he only played 64 games for us so hardly legendary status

[AlpineExile]

Originally Posted by murrayout

but could you put Brian Clough and Gary Rowell ahead of the 3 forwards mentioned??

I love Lord Rowell, but he was outscored by SuperKev and he isn't as good as Carter and Gurney (alledgedly, I wasn't born then)

And Clough maybe if he didn't get injured, he only played 64 games for us so hardly legendary status

He scored 54 goals in 61 league games for us.

Is that not enough?

[My Boy Harry]

Originally Posted by Mariner Mackem

There should be a 'SAFC Hall of Fame' including the strongest XI imo. Someone else can be inducted every 2 years or so.

I would maybe swap Shackleton for Armstrong in your team like.

Its an excellent idea and one that I'd thought of before. You should write to the club suggesting it.

[Rickybilly]

Originally Posted by murrayout

but could you put Brian Clough and Gary Rowell ahead of the 3 forwards mentioned??

I love Lord Rowell, but he was outscored by SuperKev and he isn't as good as Carter and Gurney (alledgedly, I wasn't born then)

And Clough maybe if he didn't get injured, he only played 64 games for us so hardly legendary status

I never saw Carter & Gurney so it is difficult to comment but it isn't about how good they were or who was better. Its about legendary status (hence John Kay and to a lesser extent Joe Bolton). Rowell was not an out and out striker either so its wrong to compare them as they were not like for like. Clough without doubt is a legend - he is one of a few footballers to play for Sunderland who supporters remember the date, match details and offending opposition player when he was put out the game.

I am not saying that Carter and Gurney shouldn't be in the team. I prefer to pick a squad

[Sea Dog 2]

Originally Posted by Rickybilly

Colin Todd, Joe Bolton, Dave Watson, Gary Rowell, Brian Clough, Len Shackleton, John Kay to add a few - not all for the same reasons!

[Mariner Mackem]

Originally Posted by My Boy Harry

Its an excellent idea and one that I'd thought of before. You should write to the club suggesting it.

I think I will. It could be very popular if it happened.

[Abu Dhabi Red and White]

Originally Posted by murrayout

The word legend gets thrown about willy-nilly these days, what constitutes being a legend???

Being obly 20, I only started supporting the lads in 1995 so tin hat on as I don't have a memory which preceded my life. Here is my crack at a legend XI-

GK- Jimmy Montgomery

LB- Len Ashurst
CB- Charlie "The King" Hurley
CB- Gary Bennett
RB- Stan Anderson

MF- Bobby Kerr
MF- Ian Porterfield
MF- Gordon Armstrong

ST- Kevin Phillips
ST- Raich Carter
ST- Bobby Gurney