RTG Sunderland  Message Boards    
 
  • www.readytogo.net
  • www.a-love-supreme.com

  • Go Back   RTG Sunderland Message Boards > Sunderland Message Boards > SMB

    Notices

    Register and logon to remove this advert

    Closed Thread
     
    Thread Tools Display Modes
    Old 2nd May 2012, 10:45 AM   #1
    The Colonel
    Winger
     
    Join Date: Mar 2012
    Default UK National Strategy

    Seems to me that the UK is in a bit of a mess at the minute, along with the rest of the world. too many people in power who have lost sight of what they are trying to do or should be doing. Probably due to the careers politicians and vested interests that they have.

    What surprises me, or maybe it doesnt, is that the country has no clear strategy of what it is politically trying to do.

    does anyone know for example if the UK has a national strategy that has been bought into by all government departments such as the MOD, MOJ, Home Office etc with some basic principles sitting at the top of government?

    If the ruling party, currently Call Me Dave and his hacks, could get some buy in to parts of it by the other political parties, including wishy washy Ed, then perhaps we could have some long term ism in the Uk instead of clueless short termism.

    At the minute we just look all over the place with no clear plan for growth or anything else of benefit to the good people of the UK.

    Thoughts?
    The Colonel is offline  
    Old 2nd May 2012, 10:47 AM   #2
    Pepe
    Winger
     
     
    Join Date: Jan 2005
    Location: Room 512
    Default Re: UK National Strategy

    Its the economy, stupid.
    __________________
    And with all due respect, I'm telling all the secrets you kept
    Pepe is online now  
    Old 2nd May 2012, 10:50 AM   #3
    The Colonel
    Winger
     
    Join Date: Mar 2012
    Default Re: UK National Strategy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Its the economy, stupid.
    ...or so they would have you believe. Our obsession with money is blinding us to many other things such as social justice, the concept of democracy, free speech, defence, the environment and a host of other issues that require a long term solution.

    Time that these issues were addressed.
    The Colonel is offline  
    Old 2nd May 2012, 10:53 AM   #4
    monkeytassle
    Striker
     
     
    Join Date: Mar 2011
    Location: Londinium
    Default Re: UK National Strategy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
    ...or so they would have you believe. Our obsession with money is blinding us to many other things such as social justice, the concept of democracy, free speech, defence, the environment and a host of other issues that require a long term solution.

    Time that these issues were addressed.
    someone has to pay for these things though. on monday i saw a motorbike paramedic and ambulance attending the finsbury square "occupy" camp. i'd love to ask them where they think the money that allows free at source treatment comes from. i guarantee they're not paying tax.
    monkeytassle is offline  
    Old 2nd May 2012, 10:53 AM   #5
    Pepe
    Winger
     
     
    Join Date: Jan 2005
    Location: Room 512
    Default Re: UK National Strategy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
    ...or so they would have you believe. Our obsession with money is blinding us to many other things such as social justice, the concept of democracy, free speech, defence, the environment and a host of other issues that require a long term solution.

    Time that these issues were addressed.
    I would suggest pounds and pence come first. Stick a bit of cash in people's pockets and they soon stop cribbing on. Your average bloke who can't get work in the steel factory could not give a flying one about the environment.


    Democracy is for the winners, not the losers.
    __________________
    And with all due respect, I'm telling all the secrets you kept
    Pepe is online now  
    Old 2nd May 2012, 11:00 AM   #6
    The Colonel
    Winger
     
    Join Date: Mar 2012
    Default Re: UK National Strategy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    I would suggest pounds and pence come first. Stick a bit of cash in people's pockets and they soon stop cribbing on. Your average bloke who can't get work in the steel factory could not give a flying one about the environment.


    Democracy is for the winners, not the losers.
    Yes, i agree with you but the purpose of government isnt to concentrate to one particular aspect of life in the Uk. the whole concept of government is to look after all of those things that are important and some of them may well be a minority issue in the eyes of many people.

    Concentrating on money and trying to buy people's votes only has got us into this mess in the first place. Its time for a new kind of politics.
    The Colonel is offline  
    Old 2nd May 2012, 11:00 AM   #7
    monkeytassle
    Striker
     
     
    Join Date: Mar 2011
    Location: Londinium
    Default Re: UK National Strategy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
    Yes, i agree with you but the purpose of government isnt to concentrate to one particular aspect of life in the Uk. the whole concept of government is to look after all of those things that are important and some of them may well be a minority issue in the eyes of many people.

    Concentrating on money and trying to buy people's votes only has got us into this mess in the first place. Its time for a new kind of politics.
    open to ideas.....
    monkeytassle is offline  
    Old 2nd May 2012, 11:07 AM   #8
    Pepe
    Winger
     
     
    Join Date: Jan 2005
    Location: Room 512
    Default Re: UK National Strategy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
    Yes, i agree with you but the purpose of government isnt to concentrate to one particular aspect of life in the Uk. the whole concept of government is to look after all of those things that are important and some of them may well be a minority issue in the eyes of many people.

    Concentrating on money and trying to buy people's votes only has got us into this mess in the first place. Its time for a new kind of politics.
    Your current rethoric would fit perfectly as an advisor for Milliband.

    The country is bollixed, all we have to do now is manage our fall from grace. Our current policy of giving cash to emerging economies is a wise, if unpopular move.
    __________________
    And with all due respect, I'm telling all the secrets you kept
    Pepe is online now  
    Old 2nd May 2012, 11:14 AM   #9
    The Colonel
    Winger
     
    Join Date: Mar 2012
    Default Re: UK National Strategy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by monkeytassle View Post
    open to ideas.....
    i'm sure that there are plenty of ideas that could be put forward including:

    - less EU not more, including abolition of the euro
    - policies for growth not just about austerity and cutting deficits
    - less surveillance and more personal freedoms
    - re-nationalising of some industries
    - less custodial sentences, more community based
    - education for children on social responsibility
    - re-introduction of meaningful apprenticeships
    - credible plan for building the base of UK manufacturing
    - credible foreign policy on the Middle East, Falklands etc.
    - plans to tackle corruption
    - plan to increase respect for law and order
    - plan to reduce carbon based energy requirements by 50%
    The Colonel is offline  
    Old 2nd May 2012, 11:20 AM   #10
    double maxim
    Midfield
     
     
    Join Date: Oct 2008
    Default Re: UK National Strategy

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
    i'm sure that there are plenty of ideas that could be put forward including:

    - less EU not more, including abolition of the euro
    - policies for growth not just about austerity and cutting deficits
    - less surveillance and more personal freedoms
    - re-nationalising of some industries
    - less custodial sentences, more community based
    - education for children on social responsibility
    - re-introduction of meaningful apprenticeships
    - credible plan for building the base of UK manufacturing
    - credible foreign policy on the Middle East, Falklands etc.
    - plans to tackle corruption
    - plan to increase respect for law and order
    - plan to reduce carbon based energy requirements by 50%
    Well if it's all as simple as that you get my vote when you run for office, shame it's not that simple.

    To name but one getting rid of the Euro will fuck the economies of our most significant trading partners and probably lead to our financial sector taking a massive hit on defaulted national loans from Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal and maybe Ireland.
    __________________
    'Justly famed'
    double maxim is offline  
    Sponsored Links
    Closed Thread

    Bookmarks

    Thread Tools
    Display Modes

    Posting Rules
    You may not post new threads
    You may not post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is On
    HTML code is Off

    Forum Jump


    All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:28 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin
    Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Copyright © Ready To Go 1998-2013
    Page generated in 0.09918 seconds with 12 queries

    Partially Powered By Products Found At Lampwrights.com