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    Old 20th December 2010, 06:23 PM   #1
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    raised an interesting question yesterday

    if the umpire calls a no ball but the fielding side queries the calling of the no ball and goes for a tv replay, what happens if it wasnt a no ball after all, but then the batsman changed his shot on hearing the shout from the umpire that it was a no ball

    should and could the batsman be given out
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    Old 20th December 2010, 07:02 PM   #2
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    raised an interesting question yesterday

    if the umpire calls a no ball but the fielding side queries the calling of the no ball and goes for a tv replay, what happens if it wasnt a no ball after all, but then the batsman changed his shot on hearing the shout from the umpire that it was a no ball

    should and could the batsman be given out
    They cant do that?
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    Old 20th December 2010, 07:03 PM   #3
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    They cant do that?
    you have two referrals. You can refer any ball you like
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    Old 20th December 2010, 07:10 PM   #4
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    you have two referrals. You can refer any ball you like
    Not entering in another debate, check the laws/rules
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    Old 20th December 2010, 07:13 PM   #5
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    Not entering in another debate, check the laws/rules
    if you are fielding at silly mid on and the batsman gets clean bowled but its called a no ball, are you saying the fielder couldnt say to his skip

    ''skip query it, it definitely wasnt a no ball''
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    Old 20th December 2010, 07:15 PM   #6
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    if you are fielding at silly mid on and the batsman gets clean bowled but its called a no ball, are you saying the fielder couldnt say to his skip

    ''skip query it, it definitely wasnt a no ball''
    True. And you couldn't prove a batsman changed the shot he was going to play. So I'd imagine he'd be out.
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    Old 20th December 2010, 07:26 PM   #7
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    During a Test match, each team is given three challenges per innings. A fielding team may use the system to dispute a "not out" call and a batting team may do so to dispute an "out" call. The fielding team captain or the batsman being dismissed invokes the challenge by signaling a "T" with the arms. Once the challenge is invoked, acknowledged, and agreed, the Third Umpire reviews the play. While umpires may request the Third Umpire for certain close calls such as line calls (to determine run outs and stumpings) and boundary calls, a challenge may be used in situations that may result in a dismissal: for example, to determine if the ball is a legal catch (making contact with the batsman's bat or glove and not touching the ground before being held by a fielder) or if a delivery made the criteria for a leg before wicket dismissal (hitting the ground in line or on the off side and hitting the batsman in line with a path that would have hit the wicket). The Third Umpire then reports to the on-field umpire whether his analysis supports the original call, contradicts the call, or is inconclusive. The on-field umpire then makes the final decision: either re-signaling a call that is standing or revoking a call that is being reversed and then making the corrected signal. If a team's challenge results in a reversed call, the team keep that challenge; they can continue to challenge throughout the innings until they make three failed challenges.
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    Old 21st December 2010, 08:39 AM   #8
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    During a Test match, each team is given three challenges per innings. A fielding team may use the system to dispute a "not out" call and a batting team may do so to dispute an "out" call. The fielding team captain or the batsman being dismissed invokes the challenge by signaling a "T" with the arms. Once the challenge is invoked, acknowledged, and agreed, the Third Umpire reviews the play. While umpires may request the Third Umpire for certain close calls such as line calls (to determine run outs and stumpings) and boundary calls, a challenge may be used in situations that may result in a dismissal: for example, to determine if the ball is a legal catch (making contact with the batsman's bat or glove and not touching the ground before being held by a fielder) or if a delivery made the criteria for a leg before wicket dismissal (hitting the ground in line or on the off side and hitting the batsman in line with a path that would have hit the wicket). The Third Umpire then reports to the on-field umpire whether his analysis supports the original call, contradicts the call, or is inconclusive. The on-field umpire then makes the final decision: either re-signaling a call that is standing or revoking a call that is being reversed and then making the corrected signal. If a team's challenge results in a reversed call, the team keep that challenge; they can continue to challenge throughout the innings until they make three failed challenges.
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    Old 21st December 2010, 09:17 AM   #9
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    Hutch so you agreeing with me, ''A fielding side can use the referral to dispute a not out call''
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    Old 21st December 2010, 09:20 AM   #10
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    Hutch so you agreeing with me, ''A fielding side can use the referral to dispute a not out call''
    No deffo not EB, my take is that you can only use a referral for a catch or an LBW not what appears to be a no ball
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