Arrogant and Deluded football fans

MonkeyLove · 27th September 2010, 08:19 PM

What exactly is it that makes certain groups of fans fall in to this category? Is there some kind of benchmark that if your a fan of Newcastle, Spurs or Liverpool you have to have a particular reasoning that you are much much better then you actually are

Althought to be fair to Liverpool at least historically they have a lot to crow about.

Reading that Spurs view on Darren Bent made me think what exactly have they done to think they are a 'big pond' as they like to refer to it as. As far as I can remember, and I cant be arsed to look it up, they have won a league cup in the last 20 years and made it in to the Champions League this season albeit after years of fairly obscure midtable mediocrity. Its not like they even have the 50,000 plus a week the Mags have to justify the 'big club' tag

You don't get this from your Villa or Everton fans, or even, West Ham much for all their criticism about harking back to the World Cup.

Newcastle seem to have mellowed since their meltdown but still struggle like yesterday with the concept that they 'should be beating shite like this' - Stoke may not be the prettiest to watch but are effective, and tellingly in to their 4th (?) season now in the prem, Where as the Mags are on their first tough season back.

Fine line between confidence and misplaced arrogance - But these two seem to have very little to boast about, one has won nothing in 50 years and the other little more in recent history, yet they go on like they are Barcelona, whilst going on about the less pressure at their smaller local rivals, like erm Boro and Fulham, who both ironically have made it to European cup finals in the past decade.

You honestly have to wonder about their sanity some times.

SedgefieldMackem · 27th September 2010, 08:27 PM

Daft generalisations. I'm friends with totally on-the-level fans of Liverpool, Spurs and the mags, and I have an arrogant mate (in that sense) who supports Villa. My Stokie mate is the worst like.

Dr Mackem · 27th September 2010, 08:30 PM

Thinking they are going to conquer Europe, after a couple of wins...seriously.

Perryqhill · 27th September 2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MonkeyLove

What exactly is it that makes certain groups of fans fall in to this category? Is there some kind of benchmark that if your a fan of Newcastle, Spurs or Liverpool you have to have a particular reasoning that you are much much better then you actually are

Althought to be fair to Liverpool at least historically they have a lot to crow about.

Reading that Spurs view on Darren Bent made me think what exactly have they done to think they are a 'big pond' as they like to refer to it as. As far as I can remember, and I cant be arsed to look it up, they have won a league cup in the last 20 years and made it in to the Champions League this season albeit after years of fairly obscure midtable mediocrity. Its not like they even have the 50,000 plus a week the Mags have to justify the 'big club' tag

You don't get this from your Villa or Everton fans, or even, West Ham much for all their criticism about harking back to the World Cup.

Newcastle seem to have mellowed since their meltdown but still struggle like yesterday with the concept that they 'should be beating shite like this' - Stoke may not be the prettiest to watch but are effective, and tellingly in to their 4th (?) season now in the prem, Where as the Mags are on their first tough season back.

Fine line between confidence and misplaced arrogance - But these two seem to have very little to boast about, one has won nothing in 50 years and the other little more in recent history, yet they go on like they are Barcelona, whilst going on about the less pressure at their smaller local rivals, like erm Boro and Fulham, who both ironically have made it to European cup finals in the past decade.

You honestly have to wonder about their sanity some times.

As much as I dislike them Spurs are a big club. 8 FA Cups wins, 4 league cup wins, Two league titles, average attendances bigger than ours until the last ten years and the mags until recently when their capacity has been limited - even now their average attendance since 1945 is 55.509 and they've been limited to 36k for over ten years, 2 UEFA cup wins, 1 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup win.

League wise they've not done so well, but been top five about 3 times this decade IIRC.

Tend to be in a cup final of some sort every 5 years or so, so maybe not as big as some fans think, but still a big club - IIRC they've won the FA three times (runners up twice) and League Cup twice (runners up three times) and won the UEFA cup once in the last 20 years

cluffy · 27th September 2010, 09:29 PM

Believe it or not there are arrogant and deluded people who aren't even football fans. It's like moaning why is water wet? People like to bang on about 'deluded geordies' 'deluded scousers' 'deluded Leicester fans' because it makes them feel better about themselves.

Perryqhill · 27th September 2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Perryqhill

As much as I dislike them Spurs are a big club. 8 FA Cups wins, 4 league cup wins, Two league titles, average attendances bigger than ours until the last ten years and the mags until recently when their capacity has been limited - even now their average attendance since 1945 is 55.509 and they've been limited to 36k for over ten years, 2 UEFA cup wins, 1 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup win.

League wise they've not done so well, but been top five about 3 times this decade IIRC.

Tend to be in a cup final of some sort every 5 years or so, so maybe not as big as some fans think, but still a big club - IIRC they've won the FA three times (runners up twice) and League Cup twice (runners up three times) and won the UEFA cup once in the last 30 years

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honess · 27th September 2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Perryqhill

As much as I dislike them Spurs are a big club. 8 FA Cups wins, 4 league cup wins, Two league titles, average attendances bigger than ours until the last ten years and the mags until recently when their capacity has been limited - even now their average attendance since 1945 is 55.509 and they've been limited to 36k for over ten years, 2 UEFA cup wins, 1 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup win.

League wise they've not done so well, but been top five about 3 times this decade IIRC.

Tend to be in a cup final of some sort every 5 years or so, so maybe not as big as some fans think, but still a big club - IIRC they've won the FA three times (runners up twice) and League Cup twice (runners up three times) and won the UEFA cup once in the last 20 years

nee way is their average gate since 1945 55k like!! agree they are a big club though

THELORDROWELL · 27th September 2010, 10:32 PM

Spurs and Mag fans are arrogant tossers without facts to back them up.
That's a fucking fact.

Perryqhill · 27th September 2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by honess

nee way is their average gate since 1945 55k like!! agree they are a big club though

Was a mess up, I was looking at the highest average

I can recall seeing the totals before since 1945 and it was still higher than ours - think it was the third highest in the country.