Singing - Does it Matter?

[I, Claudio]

Originally Posted by Smiler

Without reading this I reckon Dangermouse is claiming you need people singing to create a great atmosphere throughout the game while others will be telling him you don't need singing just noise like it once was at Roker.

By the way I'm firmly in the noise camp, nothing absolutely nothing in this world sounds as good as 10,000+ lads going mental trying to break their voices interspersed with the very odd Ha'Way the lads or Red Flag song.

Does Ha'Way the Lads still get chanted? Watching on the television over here I never seem to hear it.

[Definitely Maybe]

Originally Posted by gipetto

Everyone's due an opinion so here's mine. To be fair to the lad dangermows, he is the only fan in a stadium of around 40k who:

a) comes up with chants
b) has the balls to try to get them off the ground.

Perhaps he's gotten more off the ground that I don't know about but from what I can recollect he has given us:

- The O'Neill chant
- Lee Cattermole's song
- Darren Bents very popular song whilst he was here
- Riveros' song, granted it was a copy but lots were singing it. I didn't particularly like it myself but lots did.
- Elmo's chant (very good one, shame the player wasn't)
- Super Kenyne Jones
- Horse with no name (popular at the end of last season)
- James McClean's song (as above)

There's probs more that I don't know about.



No-where in this thread did anyone say this...

It was a reply to Komodo who was mocking "small time" fans for singing certain songs last week.

Dangermows deserves credit (although a lot of those songs are generic and the Kenwyne Jones song is lifted directly from Man United's "Viva Ronaldo" ). To be fair, you'd be hard pushed to find anyone who begrudges him that, or indeed anyone who doesn't want new songs or a better atmosphere.

It's the attitude that some fans are inferior and some are superior because they do/don't sing, sing certain songs, don't sing certain songs that gets peoples backs up though. I'm not saying its on this thread but the likes of you, Dangermows, Komodo and Lauder are all guilty of it - not so much you and Dangermows recently but certainly the last two, remember Komodo's Norwich rant? About a game he couldn't be arsed to go to?

If the goal is to improve the atmosphere then you'd be better trying to encourage people than telling them they're shit. Not you in particular, but in general.

[gipetto]

Originally Posted by I, Claudio

Does Ha'Way the Lads still get chanted? Watching on the television over here I never seem to hear it.

Every game mate, generally we sing the old the one (from 73) these days but it quite often goes into the common Haway the Lads chant which in turn...sinks back into the 73 one

Originally Posted by Definitely Maybe

It was a reply to Komodo who was mocking "small time" fans for singing certain songs last week.

Dangermows deserves credit (although a lot of those songs are generic and the Kenwyne Jones song is lifted directly from Man United's "Viva Ronaldo" ). To be fair, you'd be hard pushed to find anyone who begrudges him that, or indeed anyone who doesn't want new songs or a better atmosphere.

It's the attitude that some fans are inferior and some are superior because they do/don't sing, sing certain songs, don't sing certain songs that gets peoples backs up though. I'm not saying its on this thread but the likes of you, Dangermows, Komodo and Lauder are all guilty of it - not so much you and Dangermows recently but certainly the last two, remember Komodo's Norwich rant? About a game he couldn't be arsed to go to?

If the goal is to improve the atmosphere then you'd be better trying to encourage people than telling them they're shit. Not you in particular, but in general.

Unsure mate, I can't speak for the others but I do think our fans can be better (and I don't think there's anything wrong with that). People like/want different things. Personally, I enjoy chanting at the football and I could quite happily sing all game and I often do. I don't like singing anti-mag chants, I don't watch the away fans but I focus on the game and getting behind the lads.

The more original chants the better but I can imagine creating a true original chant to a tune that isn't used is easier said than done. I just hope we have a great group of lads in the south stand next season all moving there with the intent to roar on the lads and make the stadium of light into something really special. We have the potential to create something unique in England as we already have loud and passionate fans, I just think we can always improve and if that means, singing for longer, singing louder, adding more colour in terms of flags and banners then I'm all for it.

Of course the oldiers and more relaxed folk amongst us can sit elsewhere and enjoy the game whilst laughing at the south stand bouncing to the beat of O-O-O-O-O Neill!

[George Kaplan]

Originally Posted by gipetto

I'm unsure why you're being so antagonistic.

Lighten up mate. Just having a laugh.

[Komodo]

that buzzcocks one that started up down wolves is toppa, and nee one else uses that tune

Originally Posted by Definitely Maybe

For years Dangermows posted shit pop songs with the lyrics changed to reference Sunderland, or copied Man United songs or lines that they've used. I admire his efforts, but it is usually followed by "This sounded toppa at the back of the SWC " when nobody else heard it. You yourself rubbished some of our songs the other day as they aren't original enough for you - apparently this is "small time."

I don't give a fuck what Man United or Liverpool do to be honest. We sound at our loudest and most intimidating when we keep it simple, surely this is what we're aiming for anyway regardless of what is sung? It becomes more about attention seeking than actually supporting the team when the lyrics are more important than the effect it has.

The more songs the merrier as far as I'm concerned, but this idea that some fans are better than others because they sing songs that they've deemed to be the best is ludicrous

in my opinion its better to have chants to tunes not used by others. otherwise youd just end up with the same tunes week in week out and it gets borin (see that shit i wanna go home tune for proof).

my point was some of the lads comin up with the new chants dont always go for complicated ones, which is what you said. dinnar who come up with the sessegnon chant, but that has more than a couple of words and i reckon its class.

and im not sayin some fans are better than others. im simply sayin, as ive said before, that if ya goin to go to the trouble of goin to games you might as well vocally back the team.

[gipetto]

I've heard that flag poles will be allowed in the south stand as of next season