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    Old 11th August 2012, 01:50 PM   #211
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    Spain were considered a good model of fiscal responsibility. They were fucked by the banks, not govt policies. Absolutely fucking clueless.
    local building societies not banks actually
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    Old 11th August 2012, 01:52 PM   #212
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    Spain were considered a good model of fiscal responsibility. They were fucked by the banks, not govt policies. Absolutely fucking clueless.
    You going to the match ?
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    Old 11th August 2012, 03:54 PM   #213
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    Thanks for the cutting edge, ground braking analysis. There was me stupidly thinking there were global influences, a financial crisis, years of overspending, the rise of the East, Eurozone meltdown etc etc... Turns out it was just a bunch of posh boys messing about.

    The clarity has hit me.
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    Old 11th August 2012, 04:56 PM   #214
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    Agreed yet still some think there worthy of support even some working class people on here.
    The thing is the Tories are happy to take their working or middle class votes, but they'll never be considered a member of the club because the Tories are all about exclusivity.

    The only reason they want to destroy the NHS and all the other public sector depts is because they don't use them and because of that don't want to pay for them.

    It has fuck all to with cost or efficiency but that's the story they will constantly put about.

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    youre talking about new labour right?
    It's a fact the Labour moved away from cloth caps and working class MPs in the late 60s, it's not something that Blair created. That's really when new Labour started not in 97.

    In the 70s, a lot of the people attracted to the Labour party were middle class graduates who were accused of betraying their conservative background in favour of pseudo-working class/left wing politics.

    Unsurprisingly, the people that helped Thatcher into office in 79 were traditionally ones that voted for the National Front and were swayed by her appearance on Weekend World when she suddenly adopted a far right stance on immigration.

    Up to that point, she'd been neck and neck with Gentleman Jim until the swing from the NF helped her into the lead.
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