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    Old 23rd February 2010, 07:04 PM   #1
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    Needed a bit of advice. I bought a camera from Russia last year (long story, involved lots of drink etc.). Supposed to be a panoramic (lomographic) camera and appeared to be fine. Unfortunately due to my general idiocy I managed to snap the first film I took and then allowed light to get to it.

    Second film has just come back from being developed and I'd been pretty nervous / excited about it. The photos have come out but...




    Every photo on the film (except the first 1 which was my 'wasted photo' at the start of the film) has come out with what appear to be creases and brown blotches.

    Any ideas what has caused this? Is it a problem with the lens, or could it be the way the film has been wound on?
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    Old 23rd February 2010, 07:19 PM   #2
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    The brown spots - look to me as if something has almost pierced the film. New film? Do they stay in the same formation but move around on the film?

    Anything in the camera that could have done this?

    Unlikely to be the lens. I presume you have checked it?

    The creasing has to be some kind of winding problem. Is it 35mm film? Horizon? Are you able to wind with the back open to see how the film is transporting? And is the lens moving smoothly when you shoot?

    Least of your worries at the moment, but it's overexposed

    To give you a bit of encouragement here's some stuff shot with a Horizont by a friend of mine.

    http://www.doncphoto.com/panoramics.html

    http://www.doncphoto.com/landscapepana07.html

    Plenty of distortion, but great cameras for the price

    edit, when I think about it, it's probably a Noblex he uses, but they work on the same pricipal
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    Old 23rd February 2010, 07:41 PM   #3
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    Yep, it's a Horizon camera. Look great pieces of kit for the money, even though the mechanism is archaic.

    I'll have a look at the film and see how well it's winding on. The lens appears to be moving fine, but will have a closer look. I'm halfway through the current film, so I might try and finish it off during the next week and get it developed, perhaps the 'stains' might not be on this film.

    As for your friend's photos, they're cracking, especially considering the camera they're taken on - particularly love the Yellowstone Lake shot.
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    Old 23rd February 2010, 07:41 PM   #4
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    Yep, it's a Horizon camera. Look great pieces of kit for the money, even though the mechanism is archaic.

    I'll have a look at the film and see how well it's winding on. The lens appears to be moving fine, but will have a closer look. I'm halfway through the current film, so I might try and finish it off during the next week and get it developed, perhaps the 'stains' might not be on this film.

    As for your friend's photos, they're cracking, especially considering the camera they're taken on - particularly love the Yellowstone Lake shot.
    Was that an old film or something? Looks odd. The marks really look like indentations on the film. Perhaps the creasing is a bigger problem

    And who did the processing? There is a small chance it could have been a problem in the processor if it's one where the film is fed through the tank. Which it likely is on 35mm
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    Old 23rd February 2010, 07:54 PM   #5
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    Was that an old film or something? Looks odd. The marks really look like indentations on the film. Perhaps the creasing is a bigger problem

    And who did the processing? There is a small chance it could have been a problem in the processor if it's one where the film is fed through the tank. Which it likely is on 35mm
    The film was new - fuji reala (a film I use on my SLR and rate very highly).
    Just had a look at the brown spots - they're in the same place throughout the film.

    Got the film developed at a fuji film lab linky who have always done a decent job with films I've had developed.
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    Old 23rd February 2010, 07:56 PM   #6
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    As for your friend's photos, they're cracking, especially considering the camera they're taken on - particularly love the Yellowstone Lake shot.
    That Letchworth State Park looks a cracking location, not seen that before.

    Shame it's not in Hertfordshire

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    The film was new - fuji reala (a film I use on my SLR and rate very highly).
    Just had a look at the brown spots - they're in the same place throughout the film.

    Got the film developed at a fuji film lab linky who have always done a decent job with films I've had developed.
    Yep, Reala is a decent and reliable print film. You can only really wait and see your next film to discover if this is a camera or film/processing problem.
    Just whack it through then use a cheap film to check the transport, shutter, lens etc etc
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    Old 23rd February 2010, 08:01 PM   #7
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    Cheers!

    Love this place, originally signed up to keep up to date with football news, now it's like a life skills class at times.
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    Old 23rd February 2010, 08:01 PM   #8
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    Btw - are the creases real creases, or photos of creases? Odd question

    Real creases - transport of film problem
    Photo of creases - perhaps transport of lens problem
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    Old 23rd February 2010, 08:02 PM   #9
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    Btw - are the creases real creases, or photos of creases? Odd question

    Real creases - transport of film problem
    Photo of creases - perhaps transport of lens problem
    Erm, no idea! How would I work it out?
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    Old 23rd February 2010, 08:04 PM   #10
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    Erm, no idea! How would I work it out?
    look at the negs and see if they are physically creased. Pretty sure they will be.

    Also look for any actual indentations where the spots are
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