Catt's Illegal tackle-Too many referees today!

clem young · 10th November 2010, 05:58 PM

Tin Hat on, but time someone spoke up!
As a grade B ref myself for years and a player till 30 ish and more importantly an idiotic Sunderland fan for nearly 50, I can't believe anyone who plays, understands or has any modicom of football and how it's played can not agree that Catts tackle was totally illegal.
The rule used to be contact with the ball as the determining factor with no fear of follow through (over the top) due to raised studs or raking...ie , tacklers had to keep the offending foot on the ground at all times during the tackle.
Once the foot is off the ground or open in terms of showing studs likely to endanger the opposition then the tackle is deemed illegal.
Not saying it was deliberate, but definitely illegal in any referees book.The initial part of tackle was fair and just however as soon as he raised the foot and allowed his leg to roll over the ball, exposed the studs and threatened danger to Modric, the ref had every right to blow for at least dangerous play.The only debate would then be was it intentional or not?
Perhaps not a straight red as it may have been clumsy or unintentional, but a player of Cattermoles standing should know the rules and their interpretation.If he doesn't, then it's time for him to go back to the academy and learn how to play the game fairly.
He attracts attentionas he has a natural habit of following through and committing whole-heartedly, which has every Premier League ref on the lookout for any move he makes.
King Charlie was a master at the slide tackle, but rarely went in with studs exposed, rather slid in on the floor with angled foot and always being under the ball.
His enthusiasm is great, his attitude ok but his self discipline and control on the ball is atrocious and HE WILL GET SENT OFF MORE TIMES THAN ANY OTHER PLAYER IN THIS LEAGUE causing team chaos and putting us at risk. Perhaps Bally needs to have a word before he costs us!

Patch Lafayette · 10th November 2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by clem young

Tin Hat on, but time someone spoke up!
As a grade B ref myself for years and a player till 30 ish and more importantly an idiotic Sunderland fan for nearly 50, I can't believe anyone who plays, understands or has any modicom of football and how it's played can not agree that Catts tackle was totally illegal.
The rule used to be contact with the ball as the determining factor with no fear of follow through (over the top) due to raised studs or raking...ie , tacklers had to keep the offending foot on the ground at all times during the tackle.
Once the foot is off the ground or open in terms of showing studs likely to endanger the opposition then the tackle is deemed illegal.
Not saying it was deliberate, but definitely illegal in any referees book.The initial part of tackle was fair and just however as soon as he raised the foot and allowed his leg to roll over the ball, exposed the studs and threatened danger to Modric, the ref had every right to blow for at least dangerous play.The only debate would then be was it intentional or not?
Perhaps not a straight red as it may have been clumsy or unintentional, but a player of Cattermoles standing should know the rules and their interpretation.If he doesn't, then it's time for him to go back to the academy and learn how to play the game fairly.
He attracts attentionas he has a natural habit of following through and committing whole-heartedly, which has every Premier League ref on the lookout for any move he makes.
King Charlie was a master at the slide tackle, but rarely went in with studs exposed, rather slid in on the floor with angled foot and always being under the ball.
His enthusiasm is great, his attitude ok but his self discipline and control on the ball is atrocious and HE WILL GET SENT OFF MORE TIMES THAN ANY OTHER PLAYER IN THIS LEAGUE causing team chaos and putting us at risk. Perhaps Bally needs to have a word before he costs us!

I think he's the last player who should be having a word with some of the tackles that he put in. They would have Lawrenson crying on the sofa nevermind being flippantly indignant. I remember one game where he followed that little tricky bollocks who played for West Ham, name escapes me, all over the pitch kicking seven bells out of him.... he played for Celtic too if that helps..... ooooh fuck it.....

Stuart Slater!!

scraff · 10th November 2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by clem young

Tin Hat on, but time someone spoke up!
As a grade B ref myself for years and a player till 30 ish and more importantly an idiotic Sunderland fan for nearly 50, I can't believe anyone who plays, understands or has any modicom of football and how it's played can not agree that Catts tackle was totally illegal.
The rule used to be contact with the ball as the determining factor with no fear of follow through (over the top) due to raised studs or raking...ie , tacklers had to keep the offending foot on the ground at all times during the tackle.
Once the foot is off the ground or open in terms of showing studs likely to endanger the opposition then the tackle is deemed illegal.
Not saying it was deliberate, but definitely illegal in any referees book.The initial part of tackle was fair and just however as soon as he raised the foot and allowed his leg to roll over the ball, exposed the studs and threatened danger to Modric, the ref had every right to blow for at least dangerous play.The only debate would then be was it intentional or not?
Perhaps not a straight red as it may have been clumsy or unintentional, but a player of Cattermoles standing should know the rules and their interpretation.If he doesn't, then it's time for him to go back to the academy and learn how to play the game fairly.
He attracts attentionas he has a natural habit of following through and committing whole-heartedly, which has every Premier League ref on the lookout for any move he makes.
King Charlie was a master at the slide tackle, but rarely went in with studs exposed, rather slid in on the floor with angled foot and always being under the ball.
His enthusiasm is great, his attitude ok but his self discipline and control on the ball is atrocious and HE WILL GET SENT OFF MORE TIMES THAN ANY OTHER PLAYER IN THIS LEAGUE causing team chaos and putting us at risk. Perhaps Bally needs to have a word before he costs us!

Utter horseshit, his foot actually bounces off the ball there was no intent to raise his leg.

One · 10th November 2010, 06:02 PM

Riviera · 10th November 2010, 06:02 PM

Nonsense.

He didn't go for the man with his studs up and couldn't possibly have intended to ricochet off the ball onto the man, it was no different to going for a header, only watching the ball and nutting someone in the face. Your explanation is long ......... but wrong.

rocky · 10th November 2010, 06:04 PM

I'm amazed anyone is saying it was a foul. It was a good hard, but fair, tackle.

clem young · 10th November 2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Riviera

Nonsense.

He didn't go for the man with his studs up and couldn't possibly have intended to ricochet off the ball onto the man, it was no different to going for a header, only watching the ball and nutting someone in the face. Your explanation is long ......... but wrong.

Agreed..he didnt go for the man, however the tackle is considered illegal, whether there was intent or not!

jonnie_makem · 10th November 2010, 06:05 PM

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Nick666 · 10th November 2010, 06:05 PM

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AB22 Easy Tiger · 10th November 2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by clem young

Tin Hat on, but time someone spoke up!
As a grade B ref myself for years and a player till 30 ish and more importantly an idiotic Sunderland fan for nearly 50, I can't believe anyone who plays, understands or has any modicom of football and how it's played can not agree that Catts tackle was totally illegal.
The rule used to be contact with the ball as the determining factor with no fear of follow through (over the top) due to raised studs or raking...ie , tacklers had to keep the offending foot on the ground at all times during the tackle.
Once the foot is off the ground or open in terms of showing studs likely to endanger the opposition then the tackle is deemed illegal.
Not saying it was deliberate, but definitely illegal in any referees book.The initial part of tackle was fair and just however as soon as he raised the foot and allowed his leg to roll over the ball, exposed the studs and threatened danger to Modric, the ref had every right to blow for at least dangerous play.The only debate would then be was it intentional or not?
Perhaps not a straight red as it may have been clumsy or unintentional, but a player of Cattermoles standing should know the rules and their interpretation.If he doesn't, then it's time for him to go back to the academy and learn how to play the game fairly.
He attracts attentionas he has a natural habit of following through and committing whole-heartedly, which has every Premier League ref on the lookout for any move he makes.
King Charlie was a master at the slide tackle, but rarely went in with studs exposed, rather slid in on the floor with angled foot and always being under the ball.
His enthusiasm is great, his attitude ok but his self discipline and control on the ball is atrocious and HE WILL GET SENT OFF MORE TIMES THAN ANY OTHER PLAYER IN THIS LEAGUE causing team chaos and putting us at risk. Perhaps Bally needs to have a word before he costs us!

What you're saying is the ref got it right.

I thought he handled the situation very well as it could have got ugly