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    Old 26th August 2011, 09:42 AM   #1
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    An increasing amount of Football success is based on siege mentality.

    At the higher end, Morinho, Ferguson, Wenger and others all generate a culture of 'the world is against us, the press are always on our backs but we don't care, we'll show them'. It comes out in their atitude to interviewers all of the time, if they lose it's always someone els'e fault, the Referee, the FA, the media - but never them. The players are made to believe it.

    At the lower end when there is short term, unexpected success such as the brief over achievement of the Blackpools and Burnleys it's a case of 'everyone thinks we are shit but we'll show the bastards'.
    People like Allardyce, Holloway and Warnock are brilliant at this 'no-one likes us, we don't care' stuff. The mags are exponents too - ('despite the Ashley, Barton, player exodus shit etc we will show them').

    It's nothing new- Leeds under Revie in the early seventies probably invemted it, the Irish National team under Jack Charlton did it.

    If you read into interviews you'd probbaly find that our success after the Charlton defeat at Wembley and more recently the bit of a surge we had after the mags 5-1 then we apply it occassionally. Read the interviews etc after the Chelsea 3-0 last season - it was a case of everyone expects us to lose, let's see about that. On the other hand when we are expected to win we tend to bollocks up!

    Of course, you need players of a certain level to make it work. You could't take a pub team - or a Mick McCarthy team- and get them to win the Champions League on the back of telling them the world wants or expects them to be shite.

    It's set up for Bruce to get it right tomorrow.
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    Old 26th August 2011, 09:44 AM   #2
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    Iv heard that The bear is returning to the squad tomorrow
    Could be up front knowing bruce
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    Old 26th August 2011, 09:46 AM   #3
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    Old 26th August 2011, 09:48 AM   #4
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    And if Bruce gets it wrong again then the pressure on him will be huge. Not even the most loyal could support him with the teams after swansea.
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    Old 26th August 2011, 09:50 AM   #5
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    Mods can we make this a sticky and just change the team every game until someone is eventually right.
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    Old 26th August 2011, 09:52 AM   #6
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    I think we'll win.
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    Old 26th August 2011, 09:56 AM   #7
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SAFCmal View Post
    An increasing amount of Football success is based on siege mentality.

    At the higher end, Morinho, Ferguson, Wenger and others all generate a culture of 'the world is against us, the press are always on our backs but we don't care, we'll show them'. It comes out in their atitude to interviewers all of the time, if they lose it's always someone els'e fault, the Referee, the FA, the media - but never them. The players are made to believe it.

    At the lower end when there is short term, unexpected success such as the brief over achievement of the Blackpools and Burnleys it's a case of 'everyone thinks we are shit but we'll show the bastards'.
    People like Allardyce, Holloway and Warnock are brilliant at this 'no-one likes us, we don't care' stuff. The mags are exponents too - ('despite the Ashley, Barton, player exodus shit etc we will show them').

    It's nothing new- Leeds under Revie in the early seventies probably invemted it, the Irish National team under Jack Charlton did it.

    If you read into interviews you'd probbaly find that our success after the Charlton defeat at Wembley and more recently the bit of a surge we had after the mags 5-1 then we apply it occassionally. Read the interviews etc after the Chelsea 3-0 last season - it was a case of everyone expects us to lose, let's see about that. On the other hand when we are expected to win we tend to bollocks up!

    Of course, you need players of a certain level to make it work. You could't take a pub team - or a Mick McCarthy team- and get them to win the Champions League on the back of telling them the world wants or expects them to be shite.

    It's set up for Bruce to get it right tomorrow.
    I wonder how many teams have felt under siege and gone on to be relegated...........
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    Old 26th August 2011, 10:10 AM   #8
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    Quote:
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    An increasing amount of Football success is based on siege mentality.

    At the higher end, Morinho, Ferguson, Wenger and others all generate a culture of 'the world is against us, the press are always on our backs but we don't care, we'll show them'. It comes out in their atitude to interviewers all of the time, if they lose it's always someone els'e fault, the Referee, the FA, the media - but never them. The players are made to believe it.

    At the lower end when there is short term, unexpected success such as the brief over achievement of the Blackpools and Burnleys it's a case of 'everyone thinks we are shit but we'll show the bastards'.
    People like Allardyce, Holloway and Warnock are brilliant at this 'no-one likes us, we don't care' stuff. The mags are exponents too - ('despite the Ashley, Barton, player exodus shit etc we will show them').

    It's nothing new- Leeds under Revie in the early seventies probably invemted it, the Irish National team under Jack Charlton did it.

    If you read into interviews you'd probbaly find that our success after the Charlton defeat at Wembley and more recently the bit of a surge we had after the mags 5-1 then we apply it occassionally. Read the interviews etc after the Chelsea 3-0 last season - it was a case of everyone expects us to lose, let's see about that. On the other hand when we are expected to win we tend to bollocks up!

    Of course, you need players of a certain level to make it work. You could't take a pub team - or a Mick McCarthy team- and get them to win the Champions League on the back of telling them the world wants or expects them to be shite.

    It's set up for Bruce to get it right tomorrow.
    As much as that is a lovely and sensible explanation for the current reason why certain teams do well and others not, whether it is right or wrong, I really don't see how that means Bruce will get it right tomorrow.

    He is clearly his own man and will throw conventional management tactics in the air and rewrite the management rule book by being totally un-orthadox.
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    Old 26th August 2011, 11:11 AM   #9
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    If they bring out Max Boyce again we may have problems
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    Old 26th August 2011, 11:16 AM   #10
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    I think we'll win.
    I often do but i'm usually wrong, but can't see it tomorrow. Just can't.

    I'm expecting 2 more defeats and meltdown
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