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26th August 2011, 09:42 AM
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Why we will win at Swansea
An increasing amount of Football success is based on siege mentality.
At the higher end, Morinho, Ferguson, Wenger and others all generate a culture of 'the world is against us, the press are always on our backs but we don't care, we'll show them'. It comes out in their atitude to interviewers all of the time, if they lose it's always someone els'e fault, the Referee, the FA, the media - but never them. The players are made to believe it.
At the lower end when there is short term, unexpected success such as the brief over achievement of the Blackpools and Burnleys it's a case of 'everyone thinks we are shit but we'll show the bastards'.
People like Allardyce, Holloway and Warnock are brilliant at this 'no-one likes us, we don't care' stuff. The mags are exponents too - ('despite the Ashley, Barton, player exodus shit etc we will show them').
It's nothing new- Leeds under Revie in the early seventies probably invemted it, the Irish National team under Jack Charlton did it.
If you read into interviews you'd probbaly find that our success after the Charlton defeat at Wembley and more recently the bit of a surge we had after the mags 5-1 then we apply it occassionally. Read the interviews etc after the Chelsea 3-0 last season - it was a case of everyone expects us to lose, let's see about that. On the other hand when we are expected to win we tend to bollocks up!
Of course, you need players of a certain level to make it work. You could't take a pub team - or a Mick McCarthy team- and get them to win the Champions League on the back of telling them the world wants or expects them to be shite.
It's set up for Bruce to get it right tomorrow.
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26th August 2011, 09:44 AM
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Midfield
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: sunset strip
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Re: Why we will win at Swansea
Iv heard that The bear is returning to the squad tomorrow
Could be up front knowing bruce
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26th August 2011, 09:46 AM
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Re: Why we will win at Swansea
Htl
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26th August 2011, 09:48 AM
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Central Defender
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Doxy Park.
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Re: Why we will win at Swansea
And if Bruce gets it wrong again then the pressure on him will be huge. Not even the most loyal could support him with the teams after swansea.
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26th August 2011, 09:50 AM
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Winger
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Allah, Muammar & Libya!!!
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Re: Why we will win at Swansea
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Allah, Muammar & Libya!!! Allah, Muammar & Libya!!!
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26th August 2011, 09:52 AM
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Striker
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Democratic Republic of E.Herra
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Re: Why we will win at Swansea
I think we'll win.
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26th August 2011, 09:56 AM
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Striker
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Home is where the heart is REGARDLESS of location.
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Re: Why we will win at Swansea
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Originally Posted by SAFCmal
An increasing amount of Football success is based on siege mentality.
At the higher end, Morinho, Ferguson, Wenger and others all generate a culture of 'the world is against us, the press are always on our backs but we don't care, we'll show them'. It comes out in their atitude to interviewers all of the time, if they lose it's always someone els'e fault, the Referee, the FA, the media - but never them. The players are made to believe it.
At the lower end when there is short term, unexpected success such as the brief over achievement of the Blackpools and Burnleys it's a case of 'everyone thinks we are shit but we'll show the bastards'.
People like Allardyce, Holloway and Warnock are brilliant at this 'no-one likes us, we don't care' stuff. The mags are exponents too - ('despite the Ashley, Barton, player exodus shit etc we will show them').
It's nothing new- Leeds under Revie in the early seventies probably invemted it, the Irish National team under Jack Charlton did it.
If you read into interviews you'd probbaly find that our success after the Charlton defeat at Wembley and more recently the bit of a surge we had after the mags 5-1 then we apply it occassionally. Read the interviews etc after the Chelsea 3-0 last season - it was a case of everyone expects us to lose, let's see about that. On the other hand when we are expected to win we tend to bollocks up!
Of course, you need players of a certain level to make it work. You could't take a pub team - or a Mick McCarthy team- and get them to win the Champions League on the back of telling them the world wants or expects them to be shite.
It's set up for Bruce to get it right tomorrow.
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I wonder how many teams have felt under siege and gone on to be relegated...........
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26th August 2011, 10:10 AM
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Striker
Join Date: May 2008
Location: South Shields
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Re: Why we will win at Swansea
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Originally Posted by SAFCmal
An increasing amount of Football success is based on siege mentality.
At the higher end, Morinho, Ferguson, Wenger and others all generate a culture of 'the world is against us, the press are always on our backs but we don't care, we'll show them'. It comes out in their atitude to interviewers all of the time, if they lose it's always someone els'e fault, the Referee, the FA, the media - but never them. The players are made to believe it.
At the lower end when there is short term, unexpected success such as the brief over achievement of the Blackpools and Burnleys it's a case of 'everyone thinks we are shit but we'll show the bastards'.
People like Allardyce, Holloway and Warnock are brilliant at this 'no-one likes us, we don't care' stuff. The mags are exponents too - ('despite the Ashley, Barton, player exodus shit etc we will show them').
It's nothing new- Leeds under Revie in the early seventies probably invemted it, the Irish National team under Jack Charlton did it.
If you read into interviews you'd probbaly find that our success after the Charlton defeat at Wembley and more recently the bit of a surge we had after the mags 5-1 then we apply it occassionally. Read the interviews etc after the Chelsea 3-0 last season - it was a case of everyone expects us to lose, let's see about that. On the other hand when we are expected to win we tend to bollocks up!
Of course, you need players of a certain level to make it work. You could't take a pub team - or a Mick McCarthy team- and get them to win the Champions League on the back of telling them the world wants or expects them to be shite.
It's set up for Bruce to get it right tomorrow.
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As much as that is a lovely and sensible explanation for the current reason why certain teams do well and others not, whether it is right or wrong, I really don't see how that means Bruce will get it right tomorrow.
He is clearly his own man and will throw conventional management tactics in the air and rewrite the management rule book by being totally un-orthadox.
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26th August 2011, 11:11 AM
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Midfield
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Manchester
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Re: Why we will win at Swansea
If they bring out Max Boyce again we may have problems
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26th August 2011, 11:16 AM
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Winger
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Re: Why we will win at Swansea
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Originally Posted by Mackem00
I think we'll win.
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I often do but i'm usually wrong, but can't see it tomorrow. Just can't.
I'm expecting 2 more defeats and meltdown 
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