Barack Obama

chunkylover53 · 2nd May 2011, 09:38 PM

As a wishy washy liberal I obviously think he is brilliant in every way

But.

His handling of the economy has been suspect
His healthcare reform, while well meaning, have really not pleased the left or the right

And yet, because intelligence happens to come good (conspiracy theories aside) and he made a decision (albeit gutsy) he will pretty much certainly be re-elected.

All that is wrong with modern politics imho

Aberdeen Angus · 2nd May 2011, 09:49 PM

Particularly american politics. We don't quite buy into tub thumping military operations (not to the extent of the Americans). As a rule, we always vote with our pockets. Blairs third election win highlighted this. Iraq was a disaster for him but the country still trusted him more than anyone else to lead a steady economic ship and as long as pounds were in the publics pockets labour were fine. Then brown became PM, dealt with some home affair crises really well (floods and attempted terror attack in Glasgow) but oversaw a banking collapse and recession so was eventually rejected due to people losing money.

SuperKev · 2nd May 2011, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chunkylover53

As a wishy washy liberal I obviously think he is brilliant in every way

But.

His handling of the economy has been suspect
His healthcare reform, while well meaning, have really not pleased the left or the right

And yet, because intelligence happens to come good (conspiracy theories aside) and he made a decision (albeit gutsy) he will pretty much certainly be re-elected.

All that is wrong with modern politics imho

wasn't that gutsy then was it

redandwhitejoe · 2nd May 2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chunkylover53

As a wishy washy liberal I obviously think he is brilliant in every way

But.

His handling of the economy has been suspect
His healthcare reform, while well meaning, have really not pleased the left or the right

And yet, because intelligence happens to come good (conspiracy theories aside) and he made a decision (albeit gutsy) he will pretty much certainly be re-elected.

All that is wrong with modern politics imho

I think the Republican candidates on offer would have seen him re-elected anyway tbh

chunkylover53 · 2nd May 2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperKev

wasn't that gutsy then was it

well it was, if american soldiers had died he would have been destroyed

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Originally Posted by redandwhitejoe

I think the Republican candidates on offer would have seen him re-elected anyway tbh

I'm not so sure. He isn't popular right now. And people vote for change rather than the best candidate sometimes

r@mside · 2nd May 2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chunkylover53

As a wishy washy liberal I obviously think he is brilliant in every way

But.

His handling of the economy has been suspect
His healthcare reform, while well meaning, have really not pleased the left or the right

And yet, because intelligence happens to come good (conspiracy theories aside) and he made a decision (albeit gutsy) he will pretty much certainly be re-elected.

All that is wrong with modern politics imho

A bit of blood-lust has done wonders for ailing governments in almost forever.

redandwhitejoe · 2nd May 2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chunkylover53

I'm not so sure. He isn't popular right now. And people vote for change rather than the best candidate sometimes

I'm not sure either, I only think that. As you said he's weak now (or was before today anyway) but the Republicans seem unable to cease the advantage. With everything going on, one of the potential candidates could only muster up the whole birth certificate thing, which Obama 'kicked his ass' on

chunkylover53 · 2nd May 2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by r@mside

A bit of blood-lust has done wonders for ailing governments in almost forever.

aye fair point

all that is wrong with poilitics imo then

robin hood · 2nd May 2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chunkylover53

well it was, if american soldiers had died he would have been destroyed

not if they got bin laden. nowt gutsy about it (on his part)

chunkylover53 · 2nd May 2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by robin hood

not if they got bin laden. nowt gutsy about it (on his part)

and if it wasn't even him...

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Originally Posted by redandwhitejoe

I'm not sure either, I only think that. As you said he's weak now (or was before today anyway) but the Republicans seem unable to cease the advantage. With everything going on, one of the potential candidates could only muster up the whole birth certificate thing, which Obama 'kicked his ass' on

disagree. he pandered to pointless gossip, something that shouldn't ever have been an issue.

in SMB terms he chomped