Manny Pacquiao v Tim Bradley

[Crook Mackem]

I still reckon Mayweather widely outpoints Pacman, possible late stoppage. Too slick, too fast and too good unfortunately. Again, would love to be wrong like as Floyd is a prick

[scotch]

Originally Posted by Titus

So, the fix was in to lose to Bradley as an excuse to not have the biggest fight in history?

It is when Arum doesn't want him to fight Floyd. How come Marquez never got another rematch that he deserved. Floyd booked May 5th just for Manny...Martinex has been calling them out for years. Bradley has ducked Khan twice and by having a rematch with him, it prolongs Manny's viability as a box office draw. If he fought Floyd and was humiliated as is looking more and more likely then his career would be finished as PPV figures would plummet. There simply is no one worth fighting that he could possibly beat available and Arum knows it. Arum used to have Floyd/Cotto/Manny as his PPV fighters, now he only has Manny and he's nearing the end, doesn't have the speed, power, intensity or passion that he did 3 years ago.

Originally Posted by Crook Mackem

I still reckon Mayweather widely outpoints Pacman, possible late stoppage. Too slick, too fast and too good unfortunately. Again, would love to be wrong like as Floyd is a prick

So completely right up until this point

[Titus]

Originally Posted by scotch

It is when Arum doesn't want him to fight Floyd. How come Marquez never got another rematch that he deserved. Floyd booked May 5th just for Manny...Martinex has been calling them out for years. Bradley has ducked Khan twice and by having a rematch with him, it prolongs Manny's viability as a box office draw. If he fought Floyd and was humiliated as is looking more and more likely then his career would be finished as PPV figures would plummet. There simply is no one worth fighting that he could possibly beat available and Arum knows it. Arum used to have Floyd/Cotto/Manny as his PPV fighters, now he only has Manny and he's nearing the end, doesn't have the speed, power, intensity or passion that he did 3 years ago.

So completely right up until this point

You believe that Mayweather booked May 5th just for Pacquiao? He booked it because it's Cinco De Mayo, he wanted that date regardless of opponent.

Martinez should just shut the fuck up.

Marquez would of been next after Bradley had the result went the correct way, imo.

There's no way they'd have Pacquiao take a loss to Bradley so they could duck Mayweather. Most people have already given up on that fight.

& Aye, Bradley 'ducked' Khan to move up a weight class and fight Manny Pacquiao...what a faggot...

[scotch]

Originally Posted by Titus

You believe that Mayweather booked May 5th just for Pacquiao? He booked it because it's Cinco De Mayo, he wanted that date regardless of opponent.

Martinez should just shut the fuck up.

Marquez would of been next after Bradley had the result went the correct way, imo.

There's no way they'd have Pacquiao take a loss to Bradley so they could duck Mayweather. Most people have already given up on that fight.

Except Marquez has already said this is his final year boxing most likely. Martinez is much better then Bradley. Mayweather doesn't need Manny, especially based on Manny's last 2 performences, regardless of the fact he seems to have been robbed, Bradley is not an elite class fighter, Khan would beat him comprehensively

Bradley ducked Khan for the past 2 years, why couldn't he unify the division against Khan then fight Pacquiao.

[Titus]

Originally Posted by scotch

Except Marquez has already said this is his final year boxing most likely. Martinez is much better then Bradley. Mayweather doesn't need Manny, especially based on Manny's last 2 performences, regardless of the fact he seems to have been robbed, Bradley is not an elite class fighter, Khan would beat him comprehensively

There was a lot of talk of Marquez looking for a southpaw to fight in prep for Pacquiao, providing Pacquiao got past Bradley.

I know Martinez is much better than Bradley, he also fights at 158lbs and needs to stop calling them out, it's stupid.

No Bradley's not elite, but neither is Khan. Khan would struggle to land his flurries if Bradley was to move the way he did at times last night, very awkward. Wouldn't be an easy fight for Khan at all.

Bradley hasn't ducked Khan for the past two years, he was kept out of action due to promotional problems for a while and the Pacquiao fight was clearly something they worked hard to get.

[Lloydy]

Absolute joke. Its no wonder boxing is losing ground to MMA when bullshit like this is allowed to happen at the highest level.

[scotch]

Originally Posted by Titus

There was a lot of talk of Marquez looking for a southpaw to fight in prep for Pacquiao, providing Pacquiao got past Bradley.

I know Martinez is much better than Bradley, he also fights at 158lbs and needs to stop calling them out, it's stupid.

No Bradley's not elite, but neither is Khan. Khan would struggle to land his flurries if Bradley was to move the way he did at times last night, very awkward. Wouldn't be an easy fight for Khan at all.

Bradley hasn't ducked Khan for the past two years, he was kept out of action due to promotional problems for a while and the Pacquiao fight was clearly something they worked hard to get.

I remember him not fighting after Khan beat Maidana due to him running his contract down. Iv'e not seen anything from Khan or Bradley to suggest they are much better than Brook, who really should be fighting for a world title. If Manny is having a rematch then possibly fighting Marquez again who does Mayweather fight when he comes back, Khan would get destroyed, Martinez might be too big weight wise..

[Titus]

Originally Posted by scotch

I remember him not fighting after Khan beat Maidana due to him running his contract down. Iv'e not seen anything from Khan or Bradley to suggest they are much better than Brook, who really should be fighting for a world title. If Manny is having a rematch then possibly fighting Marquez again who does Mayweather fight when he comes back, Khan would get destroyed, Martinez might be too big weight wise..

You've seen nothing to suggest that Khan or Bradley are much better than Brook? Bradley and Khan have both beat guys around the top of their respective weight divison and Bradley has just stepped up to 147 and went the distance with Pacquiao. Brook's best win is over Matthew Hatton

Brook is decent, but he needs to step up, he's 26 now.

[scotch]

Originally Posted by Titus

You've seen nothing to suggest that Khan or Bradley are much better than Brook? Bradley and Khan have both beat guys around the top of their respective weight divison and Bradley has just stepped up to 147 and went the distance with Pacquiao. Brook's best win is over Matthew Hatton

Brook is decent, but he needs to step up, he's 26 now.

Pacquiao is past it. I said Brook needs to fight for that world title now to show he's up there, i still don't rate Bradley more than a poor mans Froch, good in every area but doesn't excel in one. Khan was hurt by Maidana and took far too many shots against Peterson. Brook v Ortiz would be good, then Khan v Brook/Bradley

[Titus]

Originally Posted by scotch

Pacquiao is past it. I said Brook needs to fight for that world title now to show he's up there, i still don't rate Bradley more than a poor mans Froch, good in every area but doesn't excel in one. Khan was hurt by Maidana and took far too many shots against Peterson. Brook v Ortiz would be good, then Khan v Brook/Bradley

Pacquiao might be past it but he's still one of the top in the world, infinitely better than Matthew Hatton and N'Dou. I'd agree that Bradley doesn't excel in one area, but you don't really need to excel in one area.

Although Maidana is crude, he is a huge puncher at that weight and Peterson was on drugs. Khan's not a perfect fighter, but he's proven world level.